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Wednesday, February 23, 2011

New Points System from 1st July, 2011

So the bottom line of the new rules is

  1. Increase your English language scores.
  2. Gain more work experience.

Why is a new points test being introduced?

On 8 February 2010, the Australian Government announced a series of reforms to the skilled migration program, including a review of the points test. The points test review found the current points test had led to a skewing of applications toward a small number of occupations and does not always lead to outcomes that are consistent with the objectives of the skilled migration program.

How was the new points test developed?

The Department of Immigration and Citizenship consulted widely in developing the new points test. On 15 February 2010, the department released a discussion paper inviting responses from stakeholders and the general public. More than 220 responses were received from a variety of individuals and organizations including industry peak bodies, education providers, migration agents, current and former international students, prospective migrants from outside Australia and the wider Australian community. State and territory governments were also consulted on the various options under consideration.

The department also took into account research on what aspects of the skilled migration program delivered the greatest contribution to the Australian economy.

How is the new points test different from the current points test?

The new points test provides for migrants with a better balance of skills and attributes. As no one factor will guarantee migration, successful migrants will need to possess a combination of skills and experience. The changes focus on better English language skills, more extensive skilled work experience, higher level qualifications obtained in Australia and overseas and different age ranges. The new points test will continue to award points for study in Australia, regional study, community languages, partner skills and a Professional Year. Points will no longer be awarded on the basis of an applicant’s occupation, but all applicants must still nominate an occupation on the applicable Skilled Occupation List. See: www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/points-fact.pdf

Who will the new points test apply to?

It is important to note that the new points test will only apply to one component of the skilled migration program. This change will not affect every type of skilled migration visa and only applies to applicants for the following visas:

• Subclass 885 Skilled Independent

• Subclass 886 Skilled Sponsored

• Subclass 487 Skilled Regional Sponsored

• Subclass 175 Skilled Independent

• Subclass 176 Skilled Sponsored

• Subclass 475 Skilled – Regional Sponsored.

When will the new points test come into effect?

It is proposed that the new points test will apply to applications made from 1 July 2011, unless the applicant is eligible for transitional arrangements.

Transitional arrangements apply to people who, on 8 February 2010 held or had applied for a Temporary Skilled Graduate visa (subclass 485). Until the end of 2012, this group is able to apply for a permanent skilled visa under the points test in effect as at 8 February 2010.

Student visa holders who lodge an application for points tested skilled migration from 1 July 2011 will be assessed under the new points test. There are still transitional arrangements which may apply to those students affected by the reforms announced on 8 February 2010.

People who held an eligible Student visa on 8 February 2010 still have until the end of 2012 to apply for a Temporary Skilled Graduate visa (subclass 485) under the arrangements in place for that visa as at 8 February 2010.

See: www.immi.gov.au/students/_pdf/recent-changes-gsm.pdf

I am a current international student, and am not eligible for the transitional arrangements detailed above. Will the new points test affect me?

After 1 July 2011, if you are not eligible for transitional arrangements and you lodge an application for any of the visas listed above, you will need to meet the requirement of the new points test

Will the pass mark change under the new points test?

Yes. The pass mark is a tool that allows for management of the skilled migration program and is always subject to change. It is expected that the pass mark will be set at 65 points.

There will no longer be a distinction in the pass mark between independent and sponsored visas and permanent and provisional visas.

I am considering applying for a points tested visa. Should I apply now, or wait until the new points test is introduced?

The decision is one for you to make. The department recommends you carefully consider your situation to determine whether the current or the new points test would be of most benefit to you.

For example, people with higher level qualifications, English language proficiency or more extensive skilled work experience may benefit under the new points test.

I have already lodged an application for a GSM visa. Can I choose to have my application assessed under the new points test?

No. Applications lodged before 1 July 2011 will be assessed against the current points test.

If you want to have your application assessed against the new points test, you will need to lodge a new application after the new points test is introduced. It is important to note that if you choose to lodge a new application, you will be required to pay a new Visa Application Charge (VAC). You will not be able to have the VAC you paid in association with your first visa application refunded.

I will not be ready to lodge an application before 1 July 2011 and under the new points test I don’t think I will be able to meet the pass mark. What are my options?

Australia is fortunate in that there are many more people seeking migration than places available. Skilled migration to Australia is highly competitive and requirements adjust over time according to Australia’s skills needs. Not everyone will be able to meet the requirements for skilled migration.

You may want to consider your eligibility to apply for an alternative migration option, such as the Employer Nomination Scheme or Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme. Further information on these programs is available on the department’s website.

See: www.immi.gov.au/skilled/

Will there be more changes to the requirements for skilled migration?

Australia’s skilled migration program is run to benefit Australia. The program is designed to help deliver the skills the Australian economy needs. The skilled migration program must remain flexible to adjust to economic circumstances to select the best people to contribute to Australia’s future. The program will continue to change over time.

The introduction of the new points test is part of a suite of reforms announced on the 8 February 2010 aimed at delivering a skilled migration program that will select migrants with the high value, nation-building skills that are needed by the Australian economy and labour market.

Why have occupation points been removed from the new points test?

The points test review found that the current points test gives undue weight to a person’s occupation, as an applicant can claim up to half the points needed to meet the pass mark on the basis of their nominated occupation alone.

The introduction of a more targeted Skilled Occupation List (SOL) means it is no longer necessary to award points on the basis of occupation, as all applicants must nominate an occupation from the new list.

Will the new points test changes apply to the threshold age requirements?

Yes. The maximum age threshold for applicants will be raised from 45 to 49. This recognises that in many professions, workers do not reach their full potential until their mid to late 40s, and that significant work experience is a key factor in determining a skilled migrant’s labour market performance.

While applicants aged 45-49 will be eligible to apply, no points will be awarded for age. This means that those applicants will have to have outstanding results in other areas in order to meet the pass mark.

Will the new points test change the allocation of points across different age brackets?

Yes. Australian Bureau of Statistics data and the department’s research indicate that highly skilled migrants who come to Australia between the ages of 25-32 add the most benefit to the Australian economy in terms of lifetime earnings.

I am over the age of 45 and wish to apply. Do I need to wait until the new points test is introduced?

Yes. The maximum age requirement will not be increased until the new points test comes into effect.

Is there a new minimum English language requirement?

For all skilled migration points tested visas the threshold English language requirement will be Competent English, which is a minimum score of 6 in each of the four components of the International English Language Testing System (IELTS) test. No points will be awarded for English language where an applicant has Competent English.

Will the new points test allow applicants to claim points for higher levels of English language proficiency?

Yes. The new points test will recognise applicants with higher levels of English language proficiency.

Will the new points test award points for both overseas and Australian work experience?

Yes. The new points test gives more recognition to applicants who have more extensive skilled work experience, either in Australia or overseas.

Will the new points test award points for experience in any skilled occupation?

No. To claim points for work experience under the new points test, the experience must be in an applicant’s nominated occupation, or a closely related occupation.

I have worked in my nominated occupation in Australia and overseas. Can I claim points for both overseas and Australian work experience?

Yes. If you are able to meet the requirements to claim points for both Australian work experience and overseas work experience under the points test then you will be recognised for both.

For example, an applicant who has worked in their nominated occupation overseas for three out of the past five years and in Australia for one in the past two years will be able to claim ten points for work experience – five points for their overseas work experience and five points for their Australian work experience. Points for skilled work experience will be awarded as follows:

Why are more points awarded for Australian work experience, compared with the same length of overseas experience?

The points test recognises the extra value Australian work experience provides in assisting migrants find skilled employment and settle easily in Australia.

Will points still be awarded under the new points test for the completion of a Professional Year?

Yes. Under the new points test, five points will be awarded to applicants who complete an approved Professional Year in their nominated occupation or a closely related skilled occupation.

Under the new points test will applicants be able to claim points for both a Professional Year and Australian work experience?

Yes. The current points test is designed so that applicants can only claim points for either Australian work experience or the completion of a Professional Year. The new points test allows an applicant to claim points for both completing a Professional Year and meeting work experience requirements. It is important to note however that work conducted as part of the Professional Year program will not be eligible for consideration as work experience.

Why will the new points test award more points to higher level qualifications?

The new points test awards more points to certain higher level qualifications as higher level qualifications generally result in increased earning capacity.

Why doesn’t the new points test award extra points to an applicant who studies a Master program after completing their Bachelor Degree?

Applicants who complete a Master program after completing a Bachelors degree are not awarded extra points, as research indicates that the labour market outcomes of previous skilled migrants have not been improved by holding a Masters degree.

Under the new points test will I be able to claim points for two qualifications?

No. The new points test will only allow applicants to claim points for their highest level qualification. For example, if an applicant has completed a Bachelors Degree and a PhD, they will only be able to claim points for the PhD.

To claim points for a qualification or apprenticeship obtained overseas, do I have to have the qualification recognised?

Yes. To claim points for a qualification or apprenticeship obtained overseas, it will need to be recognised as being of a standard comparable to that awarded by an Australian education institution. Further information regarding the process for having an overseas qualification or apprenticeship recognised will be made available closer to the date of implementation of the new points test.

Are there any restrictions on what Australian qualifications can be used to claim points?

Yes. To claim points for an Australian qualification, the qualification must have been undertaken while the applicant was in Australia and it must have been completed as the result of a course of study that was at least two academic years (that is, 92 weeks as registered on the Commonwealth Register of Institutions and Courses for Overseas Students (CRICOS)).

Will the new points test still allow points to be claimed for the Australian study requirement?

Yes. Applicants who have studied in Australia and who have met the Australian study requirement will be eligible for five points under the new points test.

Under the new points test can I use the same period of study to claim points for both qualifications and Australian study?

Yes. The new points test will allow applicants who have studied in Australia to use the same period of study to claim points for qualifications and for meeting the Australian study requirement. For example, if you obtain a PhD and meet the Australian study requirement, you can claim 20 points for the PhD and five points for the study in Australia.

Will the new points test continue to award points to applicants who have studied in regional Australia?

Yes. Under the new points test applicants who satisfy the Australia study requirement while studying in regional Australia will continue to be awarded an additional five points. These points will be available in addition to points claimed for the qualification and for meeting the Australian study requirement.

Under the new points test will applicants still be able to claim points for fluency in a designated community language?

Yes. The new points test will award five points to applicants who meet the requirements to claim points for community language.

Will the new points test change the evidence required to claim points for community language?

Yes. The new points test will recognise applicants who are accredited by the National Accreditation Authority for Translators and Interpreters (NAATI) in a designated language.

Points for designated language will no longer be able to be claimed on the basis of having obtained a qualification from a university where instruction was in that language

Will applicants still be able to claim points for partner skills under the new points test?

Yes. The new points test will continue to award five points where the primary applicant’s partner satisfies the threshold criteria for GSM.

Under the new points test, to claim partner points the primary applicant’s partner will need to meet the following criteria:

•be included on the same visa application as the primary applicant

•not be an Australian permanent resident or citizen

•be less than 50 years old at the time of application

•nominate an occupation on the Skilled Occupation List, and be assessed by the relevant assessing authority as having suitable skills for the occupation

•have Competent English

•have been employed in a skilled occupation for at least 12 months in the 24 months before the application is lodged.

Will the new points test change the award of points for sponsorship?

Yes. The new points test will award points for sponsorship as follows.

Nomination by a state or territory government under a state migration plan, or sponsorship by an eligible relative, to a regional area for the purposes of a subclass 487 or subclass 475 Skilled – Regional Sponsored application.

Will family sponsored applicants still be eligible to apply for a permanent Skilled – Sponsored visa?

No. As part of the changes accompanying the introduction of the new points test, from 1 July 2011 applicants for the Skilled – Sponsored subclass 176 or 886 visa subclasses will need to be sponsored by a state or territory government under a state migration plan.

There will no longer be a permanent family sponsored skilled migration visa however eligible family members can still sponsor relatives under the provisional sponsored skilled migration visa. Holders of a provisional sponsored skilled migration visa may be eligible for a Skilled Regional (Residence) visa (subclass 887) after meeting certain eligibility criteria.

Will family sponsored applicants still be able to apply for a provisional Regional Sponsored visa?

Yes. The new points test will continue to award points to applicants for a subclass 475 or subclass 487 who are sponsored to a regional area by an eligible family member or a state or territory government under a state migration plan. Holders of either of these provisional sponsored skilled migration visas may be eligible for a Skilled Regional (Residence) visa (subclass 887) after meeting certain eligibility criteria.

Is there a specific contact number that I can use to find out more about these changes?

The department is operating a dedicated telephone line to respond to any queries on the new points test. Telephone: 1300 735 683

The detailed break down of the points can be accessed by visiting the URL below and opening the PDF file.

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/points-fact.pdf


56 comments:

Twister said...

Junaid, Masters degrees DO have points; just that Masters, Honours, Bachelors all have the same points under the new system.

Junaid Noor said...

@Twister

Thanks for correcting me. The change is that previously if you did a Bachelor AND a Master degree then you could claim extra points.

That has stopped. You can only claim points for one degree.

Also points for Masters degree is only 5 as you pointed out.

I will correct my mistake right away.

Twister said...

Another correction: Bachelors, Honours and Masters will carry 15 points, Diplomas carry 10 and PhDs carry 20.

Plus there is a provision for 5 points for meeting the Australian study requirement.

So for Australian qualifications the points will become:

Diploma: Qualification 10 + Australian Study 5 = 15
Bachelors/Honours/Masters: Qualification 15 + Australian Study 5 = 15
PhD: Qualification 20 + Australian Study 5 = 25
Cheers

Junaid Noor said...

@twister

Yup you are correct.

Anonymous said...

According to the new point system, for the qualification and australian studies, does it only apply in a period of 6 months after the completion of studies in Australia?

Junaid Noor said...

Sorry I did not understand your question.

prash said...

he/she was trying to say that at the moment if you've to apply for permanent visa you suppose to apply with in 6 months time after finishing study otherwise u won't get points for ur study. Is it still same ? or you can claim for ur study points at any time ?

Junaid Noor said...

@Prash

Claiming points is different to the eligibility criteria for a valid application.

You must lodge your application within 6 months of the release of your results.

Kind Regards

Junaid

MOHAN said...

hi i have completed 1.5 years diploma in information technology am i eligible to get 10 points and i m studying graduate diploma now 6 months to complete will i be eligible for applying EOI for PR

Junaid Noor said...

@Mohan

You have to study for two years to be able to fulfill the two yr study requirement.

You can get 15 points as per new system if you complete your masters degree.

Your question is not very clear. I cannot comment on your eligibility.

Kind Regards

Junaid

Anonymous said...

Hi, I have completed by 3 years diploma in Computer Technology post my high school studies. Can I get 10 points for education according to New points system from 1st July 2011 ? Kindly comment. I am very anxious.

Junaid Noor said...

@^^

That depends upon

where you completed the diploma from?
is it cricos certified diploma?
did you study full time?
will you be able to obtain a positive skills assessment from ACS?

answer the question and i will be able to further help.


PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NO LONGER A REGISTERED MIGRATION AGENT AND BY COMMUNICATION WITH YOU, I AM NOT GIVING YOU ANY ADVICE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DECISIONS YOU MAKE BASED ON MY RESPONSES. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE OR ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE OUTCOME OF ANY APPLICATIONS YOU LODGE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION, AUSTRALIA. PLEASE CONSULT A REGISTERED MIGRATION AGENT FOR ADVICE ON AUSTRALIAN MIGRATION.

Anonymous said...

Hi, my name is umair im from pakistan i have done biomedical engineering and wish to do masters from australia but now under the current rules it seems that immigration is made to much difficult and more to come after 2012 EOI, do you think if a student coming to australia for masters would have a fair amount of chance to file immigration after implementation of EOI (Expression of interest) please help me out.

Junaid Noor said...

@Umair

What happens after the new points system is implemented and how things will work out is too hard for me to predict from now.

It is better to wait and see and make a move once things are much clearer and the dust has settled down.


PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NO LONGER A REGISTERED MIGRATION AGENT AND BY COMMUNICATING WITH YOU, I AM NOT GIVING YOU ANY PAID OR UNPAID ADVICE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DECISIONS YOU MAKE BASED ON MY RESPONSES. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE OR ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE OUTCOME OF ANY APPLICATIONS YOU LODGE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION, AUSTRALIA. PLEASE CONSULT A REGISTERED MIGRATION AGENT FOR ADVICE ON AUSTRALIAN MIGRATION.

Anonymous said...

thanks for your advice Junaid i really appreciate it, can you also please tell how is the condition of employment there in australia after doing masters, cause i have heard from many friends that they require PR to give a job can you please shed some light on this point too and also after doing masters you get TR straight away or you have to apply for it. please do reply

Regards,

Umair.

Junaid Noor said...

@Umair

thanks for your advice Junaid i really appreciate it, can you also please tell how is the condition of employment there in australia after doing masters,

You can research www.seek.com.au to find out what the market demands are in your field. Normally a Masters degree does not have that much advantage. What counts more is work experience and skill set.

cause i have heard from many friends that they require PR to give a job can you please shed some light on this point too

Yes most full time jobs require that you have full time work rights.

and also after doing masters you get TR straight away or you have to apply for it. please do reply

Not necessarily. Please check the rules for TR ( visa subclass 485)

PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NO LONGER A REGISTERED MIGRATION AGENT AND BY COMMUNICATING WITH YOU, I AM NOT GIVING YOU ANY PAID OR UNPAID ADVICE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DECISIONS YOU MAKE BASED ON MY RESPONSES. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE OR ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE OUTCOME OF ANY APPLICATIONS YOU LODGE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION, AUSTRALIA. PLEASE CONSULT A REGISTERED MIGRATION AGENT FOR ADVICE ON AUSTRALIAN MIGRATION.

Bhrat said...

Hi, This is bhrat. i am currently doing Masters of Business(Hospitality management). it is 1.5 year duration course. I will do a 6 month diploma in a closely related field after completing this. Will I be eligible for PR? Will I get points for Diploma or Masters degree?

Junaid Noor said...

@Bhrat

Hi, This is bhrat. i am currently doing Masters of Business(Hospitality management).

To be eligible for applying for PR, a profession closely related to HOSPITALITY must be listed on the SOL AT THE TIME OF lodging the APPLICATION.

it is 1.5 year duration course. I will do a 6 month diploma in a closely related field after completing this. Will I be eligible for PR?

Yes, if the diploma you enroll after your hospitality degree is CLOSELY RELATED to your profession, then you would have fulfilled the TWO YR study rule. Your diploma must be a POST GRADUATE diploma.


Will I get points for Diploma or Masters degree?

Will your second diploma be a post graduate diploma or an undergraduate diploma? If it is a postgraduate diploma then you can claim points for your masters degree.

Kind Regards

Junaid

PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NO LONGER A REGISTERED MIGRATION AGENT AND BY COMMUNICATING WITH YOU, I AM NOT GIVING YOU ANY PAID OR UNPAID ADVICE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DECISIONS YOU MAKE BASED ON MY RESPONSES. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE OR ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE OUTCOME OF ANY APPLICATIONS YOU LODGE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION, AUSTRALIA. PLEASE CONSULT A REGISTERED MIGRATION AGENT FOR ADVICE ON AUSTRALIAN MIGRATION.

Ahmed Xubair said...

Hi this is Zubair Ahmed Siddiqui
i have 3 years of Diploma in Software Engineering from Aptech and have 6years of Work Experience as a Sr.Software Engineer and beside this i have 2years of Graduation (b.com) so am i eligible for the approval of ACS or not ?

Ahmed Xubair said...

hey i have 3 years of Advance Diploma in Software Engineering and have more than 6 years of Work Experience as a Software Engineer so tell me am i eligible for ACS or not

Junaid Noor said...

@Ahmed

You have to check that with ACS.

Read their documentation which details what the requirements are for a positive skills assessment.

http://www.acs.org.au/

Kind Regards

Junaid

Nirmal said...

hey junaid,
I am not student in Australia, but planning to come to Australia for my MBA study. Actually I donot understand this points syste, Plz tell me whats the total amount of points needed for PR thing. And is it worth getting PR here?
Thanks :D
Nirmal

Junaid Noor said...

@Nirmal

hey junaid,
I am not student in Australia, but planning to come to Australia for my MBA study. Actually I donot understand this points syste, Plz tell me whats the total amount of points needed for PR thing. And is it worth getting PR here?
Thanks :D
Nirmal


Nirmal, I have clarified the whole points system in my posts below. Read them and let me know which part of the system you do not understand.

http://study-n-australia.blogspot.com/2007/10/points-for-pr.html

Whether PR is worth getting depends upon whether you want to live and work in Australia or not.

PR which stands for Permanent residency allows you to live and work in Australia.

Kind Regards

Junaid

Call to Bangladesh said...

Thank you for this info. hopefully more useful for all ....

Nimqus said...

Junaid,
I was hoping if you could tell me if my profile stands any chance.
I am a prospective Masters Student due to apply to an Australian University for Masters in Mechanical Engineering. I have 6 months of work experience. How good are my chances of landing a permanent residency on completing my graduation. The course Im gonna take 1.5 years. As per the new rules, does it mean that I have to undertake another course to satisfy the criterion on a 92 weeks of study in Australia. Suppose, if i do that too. How is it going to affect my chances?

Would be so helpful if you could help.


Regards,
Nim

Junaid Noor said...

@Nimqus

Which type of PR are you planning to apply for? Onshore or Offshore?

Offshore immigration requires that

1. You have minimum one year work experience.

2. You can obtain a positive skills assessment from the assessing body, in your case engineers Australia.

3. You score a minimum of 6.5 in IELTS general or academic.

4. You pass the points test.

The onshore immigration is the same but requires you to have studied in a course which is closely related to a profession on the SOL. In your case if you want to nominate mechanical engineering, then, you will have to study for at least 2 yrs in a mechanical engineering degree.

The rest of the procedure is the same for onshore and offshore immigration.

Check how much you score on the points test after completing your two year degree.

Kind Regards

Junaid

mickey said...

Hi Junaid

I am writing my scenario below can you please advise if I stand any chance of getting PR?

Age: 24
Studying masters in accounting (perth) (Will complete in june 2012)
Have a real sister living in perth who is a PR
Have Ielts 7 in each band.

Thanks
Mickey

Nimqus said...

@Junaid
Thanks for the prompt reply.

I am planning to apply for onshore immigration. I am hoping I could join the course by mid-2012 as I could complete a year's work experience and in the event I complete a 2 year Masters Degree course directly related to my course, how good are my chances of landing a PR?

Regards

Junaid Noor said...

@Mickey

Please see the link below to calculate your points.

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/886/eligibility-table-overseas.htm

You will need to obtain a positive skills assessment from your assessing body before you can lodge an application.

By the time you are ready to lodge an application, the new rules will have come in affect and you will have to first lodge an expression of interest before you are allowed to lodge an application.

Read details below

http://www.migrationexpert.com.au/visa/australian_immigration_news/2011/Oct/0/519/Australia_to_Implement_Skilled_Migrant_Selection_Register_from_July_1,_2012

Kind Regards

Junaid

Junaid Noor said...

@Nimqus

If you are planning to come to Australia and study for two years and then apply for PR and then make sure you read this as from June 2012 you will not be able to directly lodge an application.

http://www.migrationexpert.com.au/visa/australian_immigration_news/2011/Oct/0/519/Australia_to_Implement_Skilled_Migrant_Selection_Register_from_July_1,_2012

You will only be able to get a graduate skilled visa.

It is hard for me to predict how the rules will affect since they are still one year away.

Kind Regards

Junaid

mickey said...

Thanks for the reply Junaid.
What if I apply for a skilled graduate ? and waht happens if I apply for EOI, can I still be in the country until it is decided that I can apply for GSM or not ?

Junaid Noor said...

@Mickey

Graduate skilled visa is a onshore visa. So you can apply for the visa and at the same time stay in Australia with unlimited work rights as well.

EOI is not a visa. So once your graduate skilled visa expires, either you should extend it or you will have to leave the country or apply for another onshore visa.

Kind Regards

Junaid

zeerum said...

hey you guys
i am little confused regarding points for my qualifications. i need your help
i have my bachelors in engineering from pakistan but postgrad from UK. since pakistani qualification is not recognized by default so i have to go through CDR. thing i wanna know what would my qualification score- a 10 or 15? they say that points are given on the basis of highest degree which happens to be masters and from a recognized country. so would i be scored on my unrecognized undergrad by marking it 10 or on my postgrad by marking it 15(since all bachelors and postgrad degrees from recognized countries score 15)

abubakar said...

hi guys
i want to ask something. i am electronics engineer from Bangladesh. i did my postgraduate from London. now how many points for my qualifications will i be awarded? 10 or 15?

Junaid Noor said...

@Zeerum

The points for overseas qualifications are explained on the URL below

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/175/eligibility-qualification-aust.htm


Qualifications – Points

Points can only be awarded for one of your recognised qualifications. For example, if you have completed a Bachelors degree and a Doctorate degree, you will only be able to claim points for the Doctorate degree.

Points for qualifications at Masters level can only be awarded where you have also completed a Bachelors degree recognised by the relevant assessing authority as being of a comparable Australian standard. To claim points for a qualification obtained overseas, it will need to be recognised as being of a standard comparable to the relevant Australian level qualification. Generally, you will be able to request an opinion on your qualification claims from the relevant assessing authority when you seek your skills assessment.

You may also be able to claim points for a qualification not related to your nominated occupation. If the assessing authority who conducts your skills assessment cannot provide an opinion about this qualification, you should contact the Vocational Education Training and Assessment Services (VETASSESS), who are the national assessing authority for a broad range of management, administration, professional and associate professional occupations.


Let me know if that answers your questions.

Kind Regards

Junaid


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Junaid Noor said...

@Abubakr

Read the following

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/175/eligibility-qualification-aust.htm


Points awarded

The following table outlines the number of points that will be awarded for your highest education qualification.
Points Description of education qualifications
20 Doctorate degree
15 At least Bachelor degree (including a Bachelor degree with Honours or Masters)
10 Australian Diploma or trade qualification
10 Award or qualification recognised by the assessing authority in the assessment of the skilled occupation.


As I mentioned to Zeerum, your overseas degree has to be assessed by your assessing body. For both Bachelors and Master you get 15 points. But that is dependent upon the assessing body.

Kind Regards

Junaid

PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NO LONGER A REGISTERED MIGRATION AGENT AND BY COMMUNICATING WITH YOU, I AM NOT GIVING YOU ANY PAID OR UNPAID ADVICE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DECISIONS YOU MAKE BASED ON MY RESPONSES. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE OR ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE OUTCOME OF ANY APPLICATIONS YOU LODGE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION, AUSTRALIA. PLEASE CONSULT A REGISTERED MIGRATION AGENT FOR ADVICE ON AUSTRALIAN MIGRATION.

zeerum said...

thanks a bunch junaid

viju055 said...

Hi junaid,

I want to do 1 year master course in ANU, master of information technology, i already have 3 year experience, will i be eligible for PR, AS IT jobs are listed in SOL.

Please advice me on this

Thanks
vijay

Junaid Noor said...

@Vijay


Hi junaid,

I want to do 1 year master course in ANU, master of information technology, i already have 3 year experience, will i be eligible for PR, AS IT jobs are listed in SOL.

Please advice me on this

Thanks
vijay


What pathway do you want to choose to gain PR?

There are two pathways for PR. By studying for two years in Australia

OR

By gaining work experience from overseas and then gaining PR by applying from overseas.

If your only and only aim is to gain PR then it would be better if you apply for offshore immigration and gain PR from overseas.

You would need to obtain a positive skills assessment from ACS and fulfill other requirements to be able to lodge a valid application.


Please remember that a new rule is being implemented on 1st July, 2012 which will prevent new applications for PR. Rather there would be a Expression of Interest register.

Find the details over here.

So what ever you plan, make sure you plan it before 1st July, 2012

http://study-n-australia.blogspot.com/2011/12/skilled-migration-register-to-be.html

PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NO LONGER A REGISTERED MIGRATION AGENT AND BY COMMUNICATING WITH YOU, I AM NOT GIVING YOU ANY PAID OR UNPAID ADVICE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DECISIONS YOU MAKE BASED ON MY RESPONSES. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE OR ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE OUTCOME OF ANY APPLICATIONS YOU LODGE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION, AUSTRALIA. PLEASE CONSULT A REGISTERED MIGRATION AGENT FOR ADVICE ON AUSTRALIAN MIGRATION.

viju055 said...

Hi Junaid,

Thanks for your reply.

Iam not looking only from point of view of PR but also want to do masters, but was looking for short course in M.S as fees is very high for australian universities.So searched a 1 year master in ANU.

Please can u tell me whether i will be eligible for 2 year work permit after 1 year master, can i apply for PR during that duration ?

Will the new rules coming in july 2012 make it difficult to get PR ?
How are the jobs for IT people after they complete masters ?

please can u give me your suggestion.

Thanks
vijay.

Junaid Noor said...

@Vijay

Please can u tell me whether i will be eligible for 2 year work permit after 1 year master, can i apply for PR during that duration ?

No. You are not eligible for either PR or a graduate skilled temporary visa after 1 year of Master education. You have to study for two years to be eligible for graduate skilled visa OR PR.


Will the new rules coming in july 2012 make it difficult to get PR ?

Yes. Because you will not be able to lodge an application for PR directly. You will lodge an expression of interest and then if the gov thinks they want you, they will request you to lodge an application.


How are the jobs for IT people after they complete masters ?

You can get a job if you

1) Have previous work experience
2) Fulfil they requirements of the employer

Check seek.com.au to get a know how of what the industry is like.

Kind Regards

Junaid

viju055 said...

HI junaid,

Thanks for ur reply.

I have one more question, can i got to australia on student visa and apply for subclass 175 independent skilled visa ? As i have 3 years of required work experience.

Junaid Noor said...

@Vijay

Yes you can apply for visa subclass 175 while you are in Australia.

However, there is no guarantee that by the time you finish your course, you will have your application finalised.

Kind Regards

Junaid

Ehanita said...

Hi Junaid, I have a question regarding the two year Australian study requirement. Here's my story.. I've completed my Bachelor degree in Marketing and International Business and now am undertaking Master of Profesional Accounting degree. It's the 1.5 years Masters degree (I got 2 subjects exemptions from my undergad degree, so I'll finish the masters degree only by doing 2 semesters and summer school). Both degrees are done in Australia Since, I've done 4 subjects related to accounting in my bachelors degree, do I meet the 2 year study requirement in order to apply for a PR? Because, I'd like to apply for the temporary/permanent visa as an Accountant. Thanks for your help in advance :)

Junaid Noor said...

@Ehanita

Where did you do your undergraduate degree? Australia?

Your Masters degree is of 1.5 yrs so if your undergraduate degree was from overseas then you do not fulfil the two yr study requirement any way. ( It is actually 92 weeks. Not 102 weeks)

So if you have not studied in Australia for 92 weeks then you do not fulfil the 2 yr study requirement.

Find below a link where you can use a formula to calculate whether you have studied for two yrs.


http://study-n-australia.blogspot.com/2008/10/formula-for-calculating-two-year-study.html

Ehanita said...

Thanks for the reply Junaid. Yes, I did my Bachelor degree in Australia (major Marketing and International Business). And now I'm also doing my Master degree in Australia (Master of Professional Accounting- 1.5 yrs). So having done 3 years of studies in Australia, do I fulfill the two year study requirement? Or, in order to apply as an Accountant (since all Marketing-related occupations have been taken off the SOL)do I need to study my Masters for 2 yrs? Thanks so much!! Cheers

Junaid Noor said...

@Ehanita

Thanks for the reply Junaid. Yes, I did my Bachelor degree in Australia (major Marketing and International Business). And now I'm also doing my Master degree in Australia (Master of Professional Accounting- 1.5 yrs). So having done 3 years of studies in Australia, do I fulfill the two year study requirement?

Yes, you fulfill the two year study requirement.

However, what needs to be taken care of is whether all your degrees are CLOSELY related to the profession of Accounting or not?

The question whether your Bachelors degree (Business) is CLOSELY related to your Masters degree (Accounting) is some thing that you should seek advice about.


Or, in order to apply as an Accountant (since all Marketing-related occupations have been taken off the SOL)do I need to study my Masters for 2 yrs? Thanks so much!! Cheers


In order to apply for PR as an accountant, you need to do the following

1. Finish your accounting degree. It can be less than 2 yrs. As far as Immigration department is considered, you have already studied for 2 yrs. And I assume that all your degrees were also CLOSELY RELATED.

2. Obtain a positive skills assessment as an accountant. If the requirements of gaining a positive skills assessment mean that you have to study more, then, you will have to study more. This is not the fault of the immigration department but the requirement of your assessing body. So contact your assessing body and ask them whether you can get a positive skills assessment as an accountant with your current studies or not?

3. Gain the appropriate score in IELTS

4. Score the passing marks on the points test.


5. Lodge a valid application.

Kind Regards

Junaid

Elle Kay said...

Hi,

I am a returning Vetassess applicant with positive skills assessment. Now, I'm preparing the SRG35 application but I am confused on the payable amount.

I will require an advisory letter for the highest (overseas) qualification. The highest qualification presented in my skills assessment remains the same and I will apply from outside of Australia.

Could you please advise which of the below am I required to pay?

1- Qualification/s positively assessed for the Skills Assessment: AUD60

2-Other overseas qualification (not previously assessed): AUD250

Thanks.

Junaid Noor said...

@Elle

If this is the fees for VETASSESS then the best place to contact is the VETASSES helpline.

Call them and they will be able to answer your question.

Kind Regards

Junaid

Nick said...

@Junaid Noor,

I am a Mechanical Engineer with 1 year exp planning to do my masters from Australia.

Will taking a Masters in International Business from Australia affect my chances of landing a work permit after my Graduation, considering that I am an undergraduate in Mechanical Engineering?
What do the authorities normally take into account to provide work permit on the basis of SOL, do they give more importance to undergraduate discipline or the masters discipline?
In my case, If I were to graduate in International Business from an Australian University (say, Sydney) and then apply for a Graduate Work Permit, will they grant me one? How far will it my chances for a possible PR.
The only entry in SOL which suits my criterion is a Mechanical/Industrial Engineer.
I am really confused as I am interested in doing International Business and prefer it over a Masters in Mechanical Engineering.
I managed to get an entry to one of the Universities but decided to postpone the Masters plan for another year or so.

Kindly advise.

Junaid Noor said...

@nick

Will taking a Masters in International Business from Australia affect my chances of landing a work permit after my Graduation, considering that I am an undergraduate in Mechanical Engineering?

If you study Masters in International Business, you would need to apply for Permanent residency on the basis of your two yr study. which means you would need to nominate a profession on the SOL that is closely related to International Business.

What profession are you planning to nominate after your studies in international business?

The other thing to keep in mind is that from 1st July, 2012, expression of interest register would be implemented and you would not be able to apply directly for PR. So keep that in mind that you might not be allowed to apply for PR after your two yrs study.

What do the authorities normally take into account to provide work permit on the basis of SOL, do they give more importance to undergraduate discipline or the masters discipline?

That depends upon what profession you nominate AND whether you apply for OFFSHORE immigration or ONSHORE immigration.

For OFFSHORE immigration only work experience is the main criteria. For ONSHORE immigration two yr study is the main criteria.


In my case, If I were to graduate in International Business from an Australian University (say, Sydney) and then apply for a Graduate Work Permit, will they grant me one? How far will it my chances for a possible PR.

As of now, you can only get the 18 months graduate skilled work visa if you have studied for two yrs and you can nominate a profession on the SOL.

If there is a profession you can nominate on the SOL after studying for two yrs then yes you will get the work permit for 18 months.

Your chances for PR depend upon your scoring the pass marks and getting through the expression of interest register.


The only entry in SOL which suits my criterion is a Mechanical/Industrial Engineer.

You will not be able to nominate that profession on the basis of your two yrs study.


I am really confused as I am interested in doing International Business and prefer it over a Masters in Mechanical Engineering.
I managed to get an entry to one of the Universities but decided to postpone the Masters plan for another year or so.


What is your main aim? Studies or PR?

I would suggest that you apply for OFFSHORE immigration and study Business once you come to Australia.

Kind Regards

Junaid

Tauhid said...

@ Junaid

I want to study in postgraduate at “International Business” in AUS university , i complete BBA major in Management, also it is mention that i’m from Bangladesh i want to know the cost of overall visa process & which university is suitable for that & the chance to found visa………

Junaid Noor said...

@Tauheed

I want to study in postgraduate at “International Business” in AUS university , i complete BBA major in Management, also it is mention that i’m from Bangladesh i want to know the cost of overall visa process & which university is suitable for that & the chance to found visa………


The overall cost of student visa is listed by visiting the link below

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/990i/students-visa-charges.htm

Your next question is which university is good for the course you want to do.

That is a question which will require a lot of work to do. I have explained in my post below how to select a university for the course you want to do.

http://study-n-australia.blogspot.com.au/2007/10/plssss-haaalp-which-uni-to-chose.html

Hope this helps

Kind Regards

Junaid

vikas jindal said...

hello
i m vikas jindal from india i completed my MCA( master degree) from a rcognised university .
how can i get a points for pr ..
n plz tell me about the point table for pr .and how many point should be eligible for pr

Junaid Noor said...

@Vikas

You can check the following link which tells you how many points you require.

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/175/eligibility.htm

OR for onshore visa the following link

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/885/eligibility.htm

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