PLEASE NOTE THAT AS OF 23RD MARCH, 2013, International students can no longer directly apply for PR after studying for two years.
The two year rule is still valid in many situations. However, International students should not be tricked into believing that they can get PR just by studying for two years in a degree which is closely related to a profession on the SOL.
Please see the below links.
http://www.immi.gov.au/students/knight/faq-post-study-work-arrangements.htm
http://migrationblog.immi.gov.au/2013/01/10/new-post-study-work-arrangements-and-international-students/
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What is the two year rule?
Its very important to understand the two year rule.
In addition:
These changes benefit students because they allow more flexibility.
What is two academic years?
Examples:
Example 1:
If a course is CRICOS registered for 138 weeks (3 years) and consists of 24 units, 100% of full-time enrolment would equate to 8 units per year. In that course, a student will have completed two academic years when they have successfully completed 16 units. That means a student enrolled in that course can be given credit for prior learning for up to 8 units and still complete two academic years study.
Example 2:
If a course is CRICOS registered for 92 weeks (2 years) and consists of 12 units, 100% of full-time enrolment would equate to 6 units per year. Students would be required to complete all 12 units to meet the two year study requirement.
A student enrolled in this course who is given any credit for prior learning will not have completed two academic years study and may have to complete an additional degree, diploma or trade qualification to meet the two year study requirement.
My case:
Certificate of completion issued to me by UTS at the end of successfull completion of my degree.
Junaid
Migration Agent Registration Number: 0964018
The two year rule is still valid in many situations. However, International students should not be tricked into believing that they can get PR just by studying for two years in a degree which is closely related to a profession on the SOL.
Please see the below links.
http://www.immi.gov.au/students/knight/faq-post-study-work-arrangements.htm
http://migrationblog.immi.gov.au/2013/01/10/new-post-study-work-arrangements-and-international-students/
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What is the two year rule?
Its very important to understand the two year rule.
The two year study requirement was introduced in July 2003 in recognition of the value of Australian study in equipping visa holders to find skilled employment and settle easily in Australia. The intention of the two year study has always been to ensure that applicants for GSM have a strong foundation of at least two academic years study in Australia. The value arises not only from having an Australian qualification but from having substantial exposure to Australian society and culture.
The Government has amended the Regulations to clarify the two year study requirement in response to some confusion surrounding its interpretation.
From 1 September 2007, to meet the two year study requirement, applicants will have to complete one or more degrees, diplomas or trade qualifications for award by an Australian educational institute as a result of a course or courses:
From 1 September 2007, to meet the two year study requirement, applicants will have to complete one or more degrees, diplomas or trade qualifications for award by an Australian educational institute as a result of a course or courses:
- Registered on the Commonwealth Register of Institutions and Courses for Overseas Students (CRICOS);
- Completed as a result of at least two academic years’ study;
- Completed in a total of no less than 16 calendar months; and
- That the applicant studied in Australia, while holding a visa that allowed study and for which all instruction was conducted in English.
In addition:
- Students will not be penalised for changing education providers provided they obtain credit for their previous study and this study was in a CRICOS registered course undertaken in an Australian institute while physically present in Australia and in accordance with any visa conditions.
- In line with the National Code 2007, students will also be able to count study undertaken online towards meeting the two year study requirement (up to 25%), if they were in Australia for the duration of that period of study.
These changes benefit students because they allow more flexibility.
What is two academic years?
To demonstrate that you have studied for at least two academic years, you must show that you have completed the equivalent of two years study at 100% of a full-time load. If you are given credit from prior learning it will reduce the amount of study you have completed.
The department will use CRICOS to determine whether a course meets the two year requirement. From 22 October 2007 a course that has a registered duration of 92 weeks will be accepted as a course equating to two academic years of study.
Examples:
- If a student completes a full qualification in a course that is registered as 92 weeks, they will have met the two year study requirement.
- Where a student completes two eligible qualifications, each related to their nominated occupation, that together total at least 92 weeks registration on CRICOS, they will have met the two year study requirement.
- Where a student enrols in a three year full time course, they can be granted recognition of prior learning or credit for up to one year of full-time study and still meet the two year study requirement (as defined above) when they complete the qualification.
- Where a course is CRICOS registered for 92 weeks a student enrolled in this course who is given any credit for prior learning will not have completed two academic years of study. In this situation, the applicant would need to have (or complete) an additional eligible qualification related to their nominated occupation in order to have completed, in total, the required two years of academic study.
- If a course is CRICOS registered for 92 weeks but a student elects to complete the course through accelerated learning, for example through a summer semester of study, the student is considered to have met the two year study requirement if they complete the course in no less than 16 calendar months.
- If a student enrols in a course that would only require 1.5 years to complete full-time but has taken two years to complete, this will not have met the requirement for two years of academic study.
Example 1:
If a course is CRICOS registered for 138 weeks (3 years) and consists of 24 units, 100% of full-time enrolment would equate to 8 units per year. In that course, a student will have completed two academic years when they have successfully completed 16 units. That means a student enrolled in that course can be given credit for prior learning for up to 8 units and still complete two academic years study.
Example 2:
If a course is CRICOS registered for 92 weeks (2 years) and consists of 12 units, 100% of full-time enrolment would equate to 6 units per year. Students would be required to complete all 12 units to meet the two year study requirement.
A student enrolled in this course who is given any credit for prior learning will not have completed two academic years study and may have to complete an additional degree, diploma or trade qualification to meet the two year study requirement.
My case:
I will explain my own example to make things easy for understanding.
You can see the certificate of completion from my university below.
Certificate of completion issued to me by UTS at the end of successfull completion of my degree.
As you can see the certificate shows two things
- The start date and the end date, which is from 28th of Feb, 2005 to 18th of July, 2007. A total of 29 months OR 116 weeks.
- The other important thing mentioned is the "Normal full time duration" of the course which is 4 semester (2 yrs or 52 weeks).
Although I completed the course in an extra 6 months, the actual duration of the course is 2 yrs, NOT 2.5 yrs.
So when the immigration department opens your case file, it will look at two things
1. The official course duration as listed on the CRICOS website. In my case, my course is 104 weeks.
You can check that by clicking on the link for CRICOS website.
You can check that by clicking on the link for CRICOS website.
2. The total duration of the course in a full time load as shown by the certificate of completion on the letter issued to you by your university.
I hope I have cleared the doubts of every one by providing my own example.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Migration Agent Registration Number: 0964018
339 comments:
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The rule you are talking about is not related to two years study.
That rule in fact says that if you were granted a two year visa to finish your studies, then you need to finish your studies in 2 years. NOT 2.5 YEARS or three years.
Your visa will not be extended unless you are enrolling in a new degree.
Unless you have exceptional circumstances, the department will not renew your visa.
So you are expected to undertake full time load of 4 subjects per semester. You can confirm this with some one from the department of immigration by visiting their office in the city.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaid
I have done my UG (B.tech in Computer Science from Delhi University in India) and passed in 2005. From July 2005 to feb2009,i have worked in a US based MNC in Noida and USA. Currently, i am working with family business and would be starting with my MBA from QUT in july2009. Here are the course details:
Course Name: Master of Business Administration
CRICOS Course Code: 045502F
Dual Qualification: No
Field Of Education - 1st Qualification
Broad Field: 08 - Management and Commerce
Narrow Field: 0803 - Business and Management
Detailed Field: 080301 - Business Management
Course Level: Masters Degree (Coursework)
Foundation Studies: No
Work Component: No
Course Language: English
Duration (Weeks): 78
My course is for 1.5 year duration. i want to stay and work in australia. Is there any other way i can work (on Temporary visa) till i get enough points for PR? which TR should be best for me to apply? Will i be eligible for PR based on this course. Please help..thanks a lot!
@Hopeless
As you can see your course is of 78 weeks.
You need to study for at least 92 weeks in a degree(s), diploma(s) closely related to a profession on the SOL to satisfy the two year rule.
You will need to study in another diploma/degree to satisfy the two year rule.
Plus you need to remember that you should choose a profession which is a 60 points profession.
Choosing a 50 point profession will land you in trouble as you would need to score 10 extra points from some where.
Kind Regards
Junaid
@Junaid
Thanks for the help dude. i want to know is there any way by which i can get any kind of work permit or TR or company sponsored work permit till the time i get PR.
@Hopeless
You can get a 18 months full time work permit only and only if you have studied in Australia for at least 92 weeks.
Other wise, the only way you can get a work visa is
1. Either get sponsored for a work visa by a company.
2. Or apply for immigration based on your work experience.
Since you already have work experience why dont you apply for offshore immigration based on your work experience.
Read my notes regarding offshore immigration visa 175/176.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Salam Junaid,
Good to see some one from our own to answer all our stoooopid questions. I really hope this blog is still alive.
I want to ask if i am eligible for applying for PR after completing my 1.5 years Masters of Communication. Since there are no good universities which are teaching communication for 2 year, i found this course from RMIT which is of 1.5.
Any other way of learning communication from australia?
@Raza
You need to study for two academic years to be eligible for applying for PR.
You cannot apply for PR with 1.5 yrs of study.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Dear Junaid,
Right now I am doing master which is 2 year course (12 units) after completion of my first semester I want to transfer to another uni. The course in which i am transfering is also 2 year course with 12 units. They said that on the basis of my studies in first semester they will give me 3 unit exemption means I will complete my 3 units from old uni and rest 9 units with the new one. In this situation can i apply for PR?
Yes you can apply provided your course is a two yrs course.
However, I am not sure what kind of a course are you studying in because most 12 subject courses are 1.5 yrs in duration while 16 subject courses are 2 yrs in duration.
So double check if your course is 2 yrs long or not.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Right now I am doing master which is 2 year course (12 units) after completion of my first semester I want to transfer to another uni. The course in which i am transfering is also 2 year course with 12 units. They said that on the basis of my studies in first semester they will give me 3 unit exemption means I will complete my 3 units from old uni and rest 9 units with the new one. In this situation can i apply for PR?
April 22, 2009 3:15 PM
Junaid N. Sahibzada said...
Yes you can apply provided your course is a two yrs course.
However, I am not sure what kind of a course are you studying in because most 12 subject courses are 1.5 yrs in duration while 16 subject courses are 2 yrs in duration.
So double check if your course is 2 yrs long or not.
Kind Regards
Junaid
April 22, 2009 8:32 PM
REPLY:
Ya i am 100% sure course is of 2 years in both the uni and both consist of 12 units in total. Is it alright if i get exemptions? after 3 subject exemptions from my previous uni in australia I just have to do 9 more remaining units from new UNI. Can i apply for PR?
@^^
Ok if you are 100% sure that the course is 2 yrs even though you are studying 12 subjects, then thats ok.
Plus yes you fulfill the two yr criteria if you study 3 subjects in one uni and the rest 9 in the other.
As long as the 3 subjects from the old uni are towards the award of the degree at the new uni then thats fine.
If they are not part of the new degree then that will not be accepted.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi, first of all let me thank you for setting up this useful blog
This is my situation right now
1)I have completed my first Diploma of Commerce with 8 out of 8 subject at Melbourne institute in Australia from 2004-2005.(The course is registered for 52 weeks at cricos for 8 subjects)
2)After that for some stupid reason i transferred to offshore Australian University (Victoria University) campus with an exemption from my previous diploma course from 2006 until end of 2007. I am getting 8 exemption out of 24 subjects. However, on this offshore campus i only did 12 subjects, which leave the other 4 subjects.( the course is registered for 156 weeks for 24 subjects)
3)In 2008 i transferred to (Victoria university) Melbourne campus again and did the 4 subjects for one semester (half year) and got my accounting degree
4) Since i feel that i need another half year to satisfy my 2 year study requirement, i decided to enrolled in another diploma of accounting course for half year. I got 8 exemptions out of 17 subjects. and i did the rest for the half year ( the course is registered for 50 weeks with 17 subjects at cricos)
Now my question is:
1)Will i satisfy the 2 years study requirement?
2)can can i still count my first year study at Melbourne campus for the diploma course as 52 weeks after i transferred to offshore Australian campus and decide to go back?
Thanks. i am looking for ward to hearing from you
@^^
1)I have completed my first Diploma of Commerce with 8 out of 8 subject at Melbourne institute in Australia from 2004-2005.(The course is registered for 52 weeks at cricos for 8 subjects)So that makes it 52 weeks. You need another 40 weeks. Remember academic yrs is defined as 92 weeks. Not 102 weeks.
2)After that for some stupid reason i transferred to offshore Australian University (Victoria University) campus with an exemption from my previous diploma course from 2006 until end of 2007. I am getting 8 exemption out of 24 subjects. However, on this offshore campus i only did 12 subjects, which leave the other 4 subjects.( the course is registered for 156 weeks for 24 subjects)
3)In 2008 i transferred to (Victoria university) Melbourne campus again and did the 4 subjects for one semester (half year) and got my accounting degreeSo you again studied for 26 weeks in Australia. You need another 14 weeks to satisfy the two yr rule.
4) Since i feel that i need another half year to satisfy my 2 year study requirement, i decided to enrolled in another diploma of accounting course for half year. I got 8 exemptions out of 17 subjects. and i did the rest for the half year ( the course is registered for 50 weeks with 17 subjects at cricos)
So you studied for another 26 weeks which is well above what is required.
You satisfy the two yr study requirement.
You must lodge the application for PR within 6 months of the completion of your last degree.
Kind Regards
Junaid
hi i am Harpreet coming to Melbourne in June. I had choose diploma in automotive mech. tech.(1yr.) leading to diploma in business front-line management(1yr.) from Cambridge International College. I am just 20yrs old and able to score 6-7 bands in ielts. my institution is providing me 900hrs. working experience (unpaid) so what are my possibilities of getting pr. Thanks in advance
@Harpeet
Getting a PR depends on many things.
1. Your ability to fulfill the pre-requisites for applying for immigration.
2. Your ability to score the pass marks.
By studying for two yrs in Australia you are able to satisfy the two yr pre-requisite.
Whether you are scoring the pass marks depends upon what profession you choose on the SOL and many other things.
Check the following post for more detail.
http://immigrate-to-australia.blogspot.com/2007/10/z-immigration-guide-for-international.html
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hello Junaid
I had a few queries about PR and student visa.
I have done my Bachelors degree in Telecommunication Engineering (2003-2007) in Pakistan which is recognized by the Pakistan Engineering council (PEC) which is the engineering body in Pakistan.Core subjects were related to Electronics,Telecommunication and Computer Networking and Programming.I have 1 year experience working with Ercisson which is a telecom vendor company.I have applied for Master in Telecommunication at University of Wollongong which is a 1 year course which has the following details and link
Master of Engineering Studies*
Testamur Title of Degree:
Master of Engineering Studies (name of major)
Majors available
Computer Engineering, Digital Media Broadcasting, Electrical Engineering, Internet Technology, Power Engineering, Robotics and Automation, Telecommunications Engineering
Abbreviation:
MEngStud
Home Faculty:
Informatics
Duration:
1 year (2 full-time sessions) or part-time equivalent
Total Credit Points:
48
Delivery Mode:
Face-to-face
Starting Session(s):
Autumn/Spring
Location:
Wollongong
UOW Course Code:
587
CRICOS Code:
012128G
link http://www.uow.edu.au/handbook/yr2009/pg/informatics/H09007207.html
I have the following questions
(1)I cannot find Telecommunication engineering in SOL list http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/1121i.pdf
,so If engineering Australia assesses me based on my under graduate degree,What category will I fall in??
(2)Another question I wanted to ask that If I could apply for a course during my masters to complete the two year requirement??Or do I have to wait after I complete my masters and then apply??As I wanted to do a diploma course relating to my field after I complete my Masters.Any advice would be helpful..
(3)Another Question I wanted to ask was that I would apply for Skilled - Sponsored (Residence) visa (subclass 886) in this case my sister who is PR in Australia will sponsor my application,Is this category right for a relative to sponsor me??
(4)Last Question is that should I do a diploma course in Engineering management or purely engineering??Please advice and recommended course for diploma will be helpful which fall in engineering category of CEROS.Also I saw your post of accepting cases so if needed can you be contacted through Auslead International??
Any Help will be appreciated,
Regards,
Masood
@Masood
Ans 1. You will most probably be assessed as an electronics engineer or related profession.
Ans 2. Normally you apply for a new course some where at the end of the last semester of your first degree as you can only have one visa at a time.
Ans 3. Yes you will get eligible relative points for your sister being an resident.
Ans 4. That is your personal choice.
Read the post here which will help you make the decision.
http://study-n-australia.blogspot.com/2007/10/plssss-haaalp-which-uni-to-chose.html
The best would be not to waste money on education if your main aim is immigration.
Apply for offshore immigration and keep your job. Once you get your residency in Australia, start finding a job in Australia and come to Australia once you have found a job.
But its entirely up to you what you want to do in life.
Kind Regards
Junaid
@Junaid
Thanks you for your quick response.I was working for Ercisson on contract bases which has expired this month,Therefore I am out off a job,so i had though to do my masters in Telecommunication From University of Wollongong.If possible I had a few other question and any help will be appreciated
(1)I want to write a CDR so can you give me any CDRs copy that been postively approved by the engineering council of Australia,as it will help me alot.I have seen the example at the engineering council of Australia website but it is not very useful. My email is aliwarsipak@gmail.com
(2)I was searching a course for CLOSELY related with Telecommunication as my bachelor's is in telecom does Master of Engineering Management count or should I strictly go for a technical diploma ??
Any help in this regard is much appreciated especially if you could email me any positively approved CDR.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Masood.
@Masood
)I was searching a course for CLOSELY related with Telecommunication as my bachelor's is in telecom does Master of Engineering Management count or should I strictly go for a technical diploma ??
Yes Master of engineering Management would be a closely related degree.
You need to study for two academic years.
Kind Regards
Junaid
@Junaid
Thanks you for your quick response and the CDR you have sent me.I had one more question.
(1)As u said that Master of engineering Management would be a closely related degree.This is the course description at CIRCOS website
link
http://studyinaustralia.gov.au/Sia/en/CourseSearch/coursedetail.htm?CCD=051350M&Sectors=HIGHER-EDUCATION&Provider=00102E&PrintMode=true&FoS=13&States=ACT%2CNSW%2CNT%2CQLD%2CSA%2CTAS%2CVIC%2CWA
Title:Master of Engineering Management
CRICOS Course Code: 051350M
Level: Masters Degree (Coursework)
Duration (Weeks): 52
Dual Qualification: No
Field of Education - 1st Qualification
Broad Field: 08 - Management and Commerce
Narrow Field: 0803 - Business and Management
Detailed Field: 080399 - Business and Management, n.e.c
Will this course count to be closely related??
Regards,
Ali Masood.
@Masood
Yes. It is closely relevant. However if you want to apply for onshore immigration, you would need to do study for two academic yrs.
The next degree you enroll in also needs to be closely related to telecom engineering.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaid,
I am planning to assess my skill in next 2 months.
Is it possible can you send me a sample copy of CDR.iT will be nice of you if you help.
Thanks waiting for reply.
Regards
Sachin
Hi Junaid,
I am planning to assess my skill in next 2 months.
Is it possible can you send me a sample copy of CDR.iT will be nice of you if you help.my email id is sachin.sachdeva22@gmail.com
Thanks waiting for reply.
Regards
Sachin
Hi Junaid
i have seen in last blog that you have sent sample CDR to someone.Is it possible can you send me one as well.I have send another post before yesterday but you did not reply.
email id: sachin.sachdeva22@gmail.com
Thanks
Hi Junaid
may be this question is not regarding 2 year rule but it is definitly rel;ated to immigration.
My wife who is on dependent visa with me has 12+3 Years of education.I am definitly sitting for IELTS to get 7 band each section.BUt is it necessory for my wife also to give IELTS?
I heard from my friend that if means of education for 3 years is english then dependents do not need IELTS.Is it true?
Please advise.
Regards and Thanks
Sac
@Uni of Wollongong
Read the following link
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/885/eligibility-english-family.htm
English requirements for secondary applicants
Secondary applicants aged 18 years or over who do not have functional English must pay a second instalment visa application charge.
This payment will entitle secondary applicants to English language tuition in Australia to enable them to achieve functional English language ability.
Functional English is sufficient English to cope with everyday situations and some work situations.
Applicants who are required to pay this charge will receive information about the Adult Migrant English Program (AMEP) and where they can receive tuition when their visa is granted.
See: Adult Migrant English Program (AMEP)
Note: The full amount of this charge must be paid before your visa can be granted.
However, you should not pay this charge until requested to do so by the department.
See: Professionals and Other Skilled Migrants
You must provide one of the following:
* your IELTS TRF Number to show you have a band score of at least four and a half (4.5) based on all four components.
Important: If you are using an IELTS test to show functional English, it must be from a test sat no more than 12 months before making your application.
* evidence that you have a degree, diploma or trade qualification requiring at least two (2) years of full time study or training with all instruction conducted in English
* evidence that you have completed at least one (1) year of full time study in Australia towards a degree or diploma qualification with all instruction conducted in English
* evidence that you have completed one of the following at an educational institution where all instruction was conducted in English:
o your primary education and at least three (3) years of secondary education, or
o at least five (5) years of secondary education.
Hi Junaid,
Thanks for the good information. your blog is really helpful.
Please guide:
I have done one year diploma of Commerce (52 week: CRICOS) Now i am not sure how to get rest of the weeks to make it 92 week.
Option 1:
I can get enrollment in a Bch in Accounting (2 years CRICOS 92 weeks)
Option 2:
Also i have can do advance diploma in accounting 52 to 40 weeks)
which one should i go for;
CAN I APPLY FOR PR AFTER COMPLETING FIRST ACADEMIC YEAR FOR Degree program or I have to complete my full degree.
Thanks in advance
N. KHAN
@ N Khan
Before you apply for PR, I need to know what profession you will nominate for applying on the SOL.
Let me know the name and ASCO code of the profession you will nominate on the SOL and I will be able to answer your question.
The process of applying for onshore immigration is as follows
1. You study for two years in a diploma(s)/degree(s) which is closely related to a profession on the SOL.
2. After completing your diploma(s)/degree(s), you then need to obtain a positive skills assessment from the respective assessing body.
3. You need to score the right score in IELTS.
4. You score the passing mark in the GSM points test.
5. You apply for immigration.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Thanks Junaid,
I will select Accountant 2211-11
I have done 52 weeks... now to make it two years should i go for advance diploma or 2 year degree (which will give me one year examptions due to the diploma i have already done).
Thanks
N. Khan
Thanks for the wonderful work.
I have already applied for GSM in 2009. I didn't get MODL (because I was classified under Computer Professional NEC)
I have done Master in computer science from Pakistan and have also done MIT in Australia.
at the time of application i had one year (900 hours) part time experience in IT.
To get MODL priority processing
1: can I claim experience earned after my PR application (I got permanent fultime developer)
2: Claim experience gained during MCS in Pakistan
Please Advice
Thanks
Tahir
@N Khan
If you want to nominate profession 2211-11 as the profession on SOL, then you must satisfy the following
1. Study for at least 2 academic yrs in a CRICOS recognised degree/diploma which is closely related to the profession you nominate on the SOL. If you study more then one course then all the courses must be closely related to the profession you nominate on the SOL.
2. You also must obtain a positive skills assessment from your assessing body. Please check that after completing the courses you plan to do, would you be able to obtain a positive skills assessment. Contact the assessing body for this question to be answered.
3. You must score the appropriate score in IELTS to be eligible to apply for PR. Please note that certain assessing bodies might require higher IELTS score even to issue a positive skills assessment.
4. You must apply for PR within 6 months of the completion of you degree.
Now coming to your questions.
1. What is the CRICOS code of the courses you are planning to do? and you have studied.
Check the duration of both the courses, the one you have studied and the one you will study on the CRICOS website. The CRICOS website lists the official durations of the courses and that is what case officers consider.
Check my blog. Some where I have listed the CRICOS website.
Yes you can enroll in a 2 yr degree and get one yr exemption as you have already studied one yr. Make sure you confirm that at the end of the 2 yrs your assessing body will give you a positive skills assessment.
Kind Regards
Junaid
@Tahir
The MODL has been abolished. You can no longer claim points for MODL.
And since you did not claim points for MODL when you applied for GSM, you cannot claim them now as MODL no longer exists.
You will be awarded points for specific work experience if you have been employed for three (3) of the last four (4) years in an occupation on the Skilled Occupation List (SOL).
You must have been employed:
* for at least 20 hours a week
* in a paid position
* at a skilled level in your nominated occupation or in a closely related occupation on the SOL.
So yes you can claim points for specific work experience even if the work was done after you lodged your application for PR.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaid
I Did master of engineering studies from Univeristy f wollongong and graduated in July 2010. 72 CP in 2 years ..course was regitered as 104 weeks course on CRICOS website. But as university has stopped this course from this year...this course CRICOS code also does not show anything on CRICOS website.
Will it be a problem for GSM application.what u reckon?
s
@^^
Hi,
Currently i am studying for Masters in Engineering (CRICOS code 0240637) of duration 104 weeks/2 yrs. Now i hav enrolled for 3 subjects in 1st semester.Some one told that the rule of 2yrs is getting changed.We need to do 4subjects/sem * 4 = 16 subjects for considering it as a2 yr study while applying for PR. Are you aware of any changes like that. Plz giv me a quock reply..
thnks in advance
No, it will not be a problem.
As long as the course remained CRICOS certified till the end of your degree, you will not have any problems.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi
I am studying Masters of Commerce in RMIT ending this year (Dec 2010) by which I would have completed 1.5 years of study.
I am thinking of doing another Masters of Business in Information Technology starting March 2011 to gain the ACS accreditation (the course is accredited if you follow a specific route). This course runs for about 1.5 years but I have 4 subjects exemptions from the previous masters meaning I finish it in a year (ending Dec 2011)
In total I would have had 2.5 years of academic study. But how would I know if I have the chance to get the ACS accreditation even if the course is accredited by the body? I heard from a migration agent that just because the course is accredited doesn't guarantee a pass in their assessment.
Please advise
@melcwf
Find my comments below
melcwf said...
Hi
I am studying Masters of Commerce in RMIT ending this year (Dec 2010) by which I would have completed 1.5 years of study.
I am thinking of doing another Masters of Business in Information Technology starting March 2011 to gain the ACS accreditation (the course is accredited if you follow a specific route). This course runs for about 1.5 years but I have 4 subjects exemptions from the previous masters meaning I finish it in a year (ending Dec 2011)
In total I would have had 2.5 years of academic study. But how would I know if I have the chance to get the ACS accreditation even if the course is accredited by the body? I heard from a migration agent that just because the course is accredited doesn't guarantee a pass in their assessment.
Please advise
Back in my days if you completed a course accredited by ACS (you can check that from their website) it meant you would get a positive skills assessment.
So check if there have been any new rules. I am not aware of any.
Back in my days if you finish an accredited course, you get a positive skills assessment.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi I am a master by research student. My CoE number registered in CRICOS is 104 weeks. If I can finish this research in 1.5ys, will immigration office considerit as a 2y course? Thank you~
@^^
Hi I am a master by research student. My CoE number registered in CRICOS is 104 weeks. If I can finish this research in 1.5ys, will immigration office considerit as a 2y course? Thank you~
Yes you can finish a two yrs course in no less then 16 calendar months and can still fulfill the two year rule requirement.
hi junaid dear i have applied for 1.5 year master of proffesional accounting and its duration is 18 months ....so please help me out can i apply for PR please can you explain it ....my email id is kafeel999@yahoo.com
thanks will be waiting for your response
Hi Kafeel
Check the duration of the course on the CRICOS website.
If the duration is less then 92 weeks then you cannot apply for PR.
If the duration is more then 92 weeks then you can apply.
You also have to satisfy other requirements to be eligible to apply for PR.
kind Regards
Junaid
Apologies if I am asking a question on the wrong page.. You are very prompt on it is why I thought I should attempt it..
I have two questions:
1) Can a person on a student visa that has just entered Australia apply for the 175 visa if he successfully meets the points requirement? My points of concern are:
1- Ability to switch from a student visa to 175
2- Ability to apply for 175 WHILE being INSIDE Australia
2) I have a sub class - 457 Visa and I have been in Australia for 2 months appx. The limitations on my visa are: 8107 (Work limitations) and 8501 (Health Cover). I successfully meet the point requirements for the 175 visa, but now that I am ON 457 visa and INSIDE Australia, can you confirm whether or not I can apply for 175 visa?
Points of concern are:
1- Can I switch from 457 to 175
2- Can I apply for 175 WHILE being INSIDE Australia?
Many many thanks for your guidance..
Regards,
Humna
@Humna
Can a person on a student visa that has just entered Australia apply for the 175 visa if he successfully meets the points requirement? My points of concern are:
Yes, if you are on a student visa, you can apply for an offshore permanent resident visa sublcass 175, while physically present in Australia.
Ability to switch from a student visa to 175
Yes, you can change your visa. Once you are granted the visa subclass 175 while you are in Australia, you will have to leave Australia and go to another country to have the visa label stamped on your passport. You can do this from any country. This normally takes 2 to three working days.
Ability to apply for 175 WHILE being INSIDE Australia
Yes you can.
I have a sub class - 457 Visa and I have been in Australia for 2 months appx. The limitations on my visa are: 8107 (Work limitations) and 8501 (Health Cover). I successfully meet the point requirements for the 175 visa, but now that I am ON 457 visa and INSIDE Australia, can you confirm whether or not I can apply for 175 visa?
457 is not a student visa. Are you sure you are on a student visa?
457 is a work visa.
But even if you are on 457 you can still apply for 175.
Kind Regards
Junaid
First of all, thank you so very much for the prompt response, that was awesome!
I am actually not a student. I am working here, my first question was for my brother who is about to come here as a potential student.
The second question related directly to me.
Thank you so much! I have another query too.
I have another question.. I will make it specific now:
My brother qualified as an engineer from GIKI in 2008, and joined shell pakistan in sept 2008as an engineer. Hence, his 3 years qualification requirement for the 175 visa completes in sept 2011.
His objective is to do an MBA and get a PR as well. The issue is, there is a genenral understanding that MBA being too generic in nature, will mean he will most probably require an employer sponsored PR. Is that correct? If it is, I felt that the better option for him would be to wait a bit, aquire the 3 years of experience and apply for 175 instead of coming in as a student.
But I also dont want him to waste any year.
Given that, this is what we are hoping to do.. please guide if this is viable:
1- He applies for an MBA in a uni right now that starts after Sept 11, allowing him to work till Sept to finish the 3 year requirement for 175
2- He gets his student visa
3- He comes to Australia on the student visa, once here he applies for 175
Is this workable?
Also, his total experience as an engineer will be 3 years.. is that fine, or do we need 4 years of work experience for 175?
Many thanks and sorry for making your damag ki dehi (literally)
Regards,
Humna
Oh and one last question for myself
I have been here for 2 months only. How soon is it advisable to switch from my 457 to 175?
THANKS!
@Humna
He applies for an MBA in a uni right now that starts after Sept 11, allowing him to work till Sept to finish the 3 year requirement for 175
The work requirement of the immigration department is one year.
The work requirement of engineers Australia is also one year.
So your brother can apply right now if he fulfills the pre-requisites.
He needs to obtain a positive skills assessment from engineers Australia in A PROFESSION which is on the Skilled Occupation List, SOL. If his profession is not on the SOL then he cannot apply for immigration. Obtain at least 6.5 in all modules of IELTS and score 120 on the points test for the visa subclass 175. If all is OK then lodge the application.
Please note that the points test would be changing in June 2011. So please check if he is going to apply after or before June 2011. My answers are based on the current points system.
You can check the points system after June 2011 by reading the following PDF document.
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/points-fact.pdf
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/pdf/points-testfaq.pdf
You can also check your points on the current points test by visiting the link below
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/175/eligibility-applicant.htm
You can find the latest SOL by clicking on the following two links
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/_pdf/sol-schedule3.pdf
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/_pdf/sol-schedule4.pdf
He gets his student visa
3- He comes to Australia on the student visa, once here he applies for 175
Is this workable?
Yes this is workable however, he can apply for 175 even before he comes to Australia.
Also, there is no guarantee that he will get the 175 visa by the time he finishes his MBA. This has happened in many cases I know. So be prepared to go back just in case the visa is not granted by the end of the MBA.
Also, his total experience as an engineer will be 3 years.. is that fine, or do we need 4 years of work experience for 175?
Yes that is fine. Your work experience must be valid on the day you lodge the application. Check with the work experience requirement in the eligibility section of the points test link I provided you.
His objective is to do an MBA and get a PR as well. The issue is, there is a genenral understanding that MBA being too generic in nature, will mean he will most probably require an employer sponsored PR. Is that correct? If it is, I felt that the better option for him would be to wait a bit, aquire the 3 years of experience and apply for 175 instead of coming in as a student.
You can only apply for PR if your profession is on the SOL. If your profession is not on the SOL then you cannot apply.
Most of the professions which are closely related to MBA are not on SOL or have low points.
So your brother should apply for PR based on his engineering work experience.
If he finishes his study and then applies, then he might face the following two problems.
1) His work experience might have become invalid by the time he lodges the application.
2) There is no profession on SOL which closely matches the MBA degree he completes.
3) His MBA is not of two yrs.
So my suggestion would be to apply now.
Oh and one last question for myself
I have been here for 2 months only. How soon is it advisable to switch from my 457 to 175?
As soon as you have all the pre-requisites ready.
1) Positive skills assessment from assessing body
2) IELTS exam results.
3) 120 points on the points test.
Cheers
Junaid
Hello Junaid, I did my one year Masters Of Engineering from ANU and then a six months Certificate in Human Resource Managment from University Of Canberra, Now i am planning to go back to ANU as one of the consultant with whom i discussed my case told me that i might have some difficulty to show relevance between my two courses. In ANU i will be pursuing Master Of Graduate Studies which is a one year program. This program is very flexible in terms of selection of courses and i will be taking some engineering courses along with some management courses related to Engineering.
Now i have asked ANU to give me some exemptions on the courses i have studied in UC and they have nearly agreed t give me exemptions for two courses which means i will have to study six courses in two semester now, although i am also thinking of studying five courses in one semester and then studying a course in summer term.
Now my question is if i study three courses per semester will it affect my two years study requirement? Although initially i taught international students can not take less than four courses/semster but if the Uni doesnt have any objection then my approach is why should i worry? So basically my question is "is my approach right?" Thanks
Hi, junaid first i would like to appreciate the work you are doing.
I am Electrical Engineer and i need some sample CDRs, If you can help me in this i would really be thankful. My email id is
shero85@gmail.com.
Thanks
Hello, i need to ask a question. i did my Masters of Engineering from Uni of Sydney in July 2010 and came back to Pakistan. Here i didnthave much luck in finding a job and am planning to go back to Australia. I have already got an offer letter for a course in UTS. My plan is to apply for TR after doing my degree and then do the professional yr and then apply fr PR. I want to ask a few questions:-
I have heard that they have changed the rules for TR and someone told me i might not be eligible for TR even after i finish my two years study? Is this true?
Second does the gap in my studies would affect my fullfillment of two yrs study requirement?
Hoping for a quick reply. Thanks
@Haider Jamal
If you have to study less then 4 subjects in your last semester because you have already completed the rest of the course, than, it will not affect your full time load.
You can only do this once as an international student in Australia.
@Ahmad Raza
The new rules which will start in july , 2011 do not apply to graduate skilled visa subclass 485 which most people call TR.
You can find the rules for TR by visiting the following link
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/485/eligibility-applicant.htm
However, pleas once you complete the TR period, you will have to apply for PR. So check whether you will be able to apply for PR with your qualifications or not. I have posted a link to the points system for new rules on my blog. Read it carefully.
No gaps in study do not affect the two year study rule.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaid bhai. ok my story is a little perplexing. well, i want to study in australia and right after that i want to settle there. the thing is that im confused as to which course i should choose that will be economical AND be able to fulfil the criteria of getting PR in australia.
First i was advised by one consultant to do MBA for 2 years from University of Ballarat/Melbourne Institute of Technology. but it turned out to be quite expensive.
then another consultant told me that australia is not acknowledging the MBA degree if you want PR. that other consultant told me that i should take up a package of 3 different courses in UNISA in order to fulfil the two year criteria to getting PR:
1)Graduate Diploma in Business (Professional Accounting)-1 year
2)Master of Business (Professional Accounting)- originally for 1.5 years but would be reduced for me 0.5 years
3)Graduate Certificate in Business (Professional Accounting)-0.5 years
All these courses would sum up to 2 years giving me the upper hand to get PR. But all of these courses are turning out to be very expensive for me. Then finally i came up to the third consultant who has told me to do an 18 month diploma from Australian College of Technology that has the courses:
CRICOS COURSE
067109M Certificate II in Business
067110G Certificate III in Business
067111F Certificate IV in Business
067113D Diploma In Management
I would like to know if a DIPLOMA(such as the 18 month Diploma stated above and/or a 1 year diploma, and im not talking about post graduate diploma) is eligible to apply for PR.
Please reply as ive become very restless on this issue
Hi Junaid. I posted my comment for you but i got no replies. Therefore ill post it again:
Hi Junaid bhai. ok my story is a little perplexing. well, i want to study in australia and right after that i want to settle there. the thing is that im confused as to which course i should choose that will be economical AND be able to fulfil the criteria of getting PR in australia.
First i was advised by one consultant to do MBA for 2 years from University of Ballarat/Melbourne Institute of Technology. but it turned out to be quite expensive.
then another consultant told me that australia is not acknowledging the MBA degree if you want PR. that other consultant told me that i should take up a package of 3 different courses in UNISA in order to fulfil the two year criteria to getting PR:
1)Graduate Diploma in Business (Professional Accounting)-1 year
2)Master of Business (Professional Accounting)- originally for 1.5 years but would be reduced for me 0.5 years
3)Graduate Certificate in Business (Professional Accounting)-0.5 years
All these courses would sum up to 2 years giving me the upper hand to get PR. But all of these courses are turning out to be very expensive for me. Then finally i came up to the third consultant who has told me to do an 18 month diploma from Australian College of Technology that has the courses:
CRICOS COURSE
067109M Certificate II in Business
067110G Certificate III in Business
067111F Certificate IV in Business
067113D Diploma In Management
I would like to know if a DIPLOMA(such as the 18 month Diploma stated above and/or a 1 year diploma, and im not talking about post graduate diploma) is eligible to apply for PR.
Please reply as ive become very restless on this issue"
I would like to get a response from you sir.
Thanks
@Peter Lobo
I would not be able to suggest to you a course which is both cheap, inexpensive and at the same time make you eligible for PR.
Also please remember, that a graduate certificate cannot be used towards the 2 year rule, unless it is part of a graduate diploma.
Once you have selected the courses, let me know and I will be able to comment whether it will make you eligible for PR or not.
Hello Junaid, really helpful piece of advice in this blog thank you!
Basically I want to ask you your opinion on how to relate my degrees. I am going to nominate electrical engineer as my occupation (http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Previousproducts/C9DB32D1BA6F84EFCA2571E20083546C?opendocument). The problem is my master course is 78 weeks long so I am looking for a short course that I can relate to it and catch the 92 week threshold.
I am mostly inclined to Management Diploma courses which give you skills described here: http://employabilityskills.training.com.au/view.php?q=BSB51107.
Now I think I can justify how the two of them can be related, but do you think it is a safe choice or I will be having problems with my application if I get that diploma?
Thanks in advance!
@Dimitris
That is one area I am not very familiar with.
It would be better to consult an expert migration agent and get professional advice.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaid,
I am a bit confused with the 2 years study requirements too.
I am currently doing double degree which is Bachelor of IT/Commerce. I commenced my study in July 2008 and completed IT degree in Dec 2010 and still doing another semester to complete my Commerce degree. I got 50% exemptions for my IT degree from poly diploma in SG. I studied here for 2.5 yrs to complete that degree while some credits that I did was for commerce degree. So,can I apply for PR with IT degree while still completing my commerce degree? Will I satisfy for 2 yrs rule with IT degree?
@m
Please use the following formula to calculate the amount of time you have studied. Any subjects for which you were given an exemption are not counted towards the two years time period. Use the formula and see if you studied for more than 92 weeks.
Here is the formula.
T=L X C/U , where:
T= Duration for which the student studied the course.
L= length of course on CRICOS
C = number of units completed by student, excluding exemptions.
U = number of units which would be necessary to complete the studies
Hi,
Thanks for creating informative blog.My course(MIT) is registered as 104 weeks on CRICOS 2 year and 12 units.But I want to accelerate my studies and want to finish in 1.5 year.I've not taken any exemption.Will I be eligible for 2 year study requirement? I saw my case in your blog but it's written in 2008.So want to confirm is it still valid that accelerated program will meet 2 year study requirement.Thanks
Hi,
Thanks for creating informative blog.My course(MIT) is registered as 104 weeks on CRICOS 2 year and 12 units.But I want to accelerate my studies and want to finish in 1.5 year.I've not taken any exemption.Will I be eligible for 2 year study requirement? I saw my case in your blog but it's written in 2008.So want to confirm is it still valid that accelerated program will meet 2 year study requirement.Thanks
Hello,
Im studying for my Masters in Monash now, which is a 1.5 year course. However, after the first semester I plan to transfer to Uni of Melbourne for a 2 year course, by taking credits for my first semester.
So eventually I will be studying 1 semester in Monash full-time, and the other 1.5 years in Uni of Melbourne. Will this satisfy the two year rule?
If not, will it be okay to complete the 1.5 year course and then do a 6 month related advanced diploma?
@Moi
As long as the 6 months you study in Monash are counted towards your two yr degree at Monash, then, you will be fulfilling the two yr rule.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hello Junaid,
Thanks so much for your prompt reply.
However, please note that my final degree will not be from Monash, it will be from University of Melbourne.
Ultimately I will be studying 6 months in Monash, and 1.5 years in University of Melbourne and receive only ONE certificate: "Master in Finance" degree from University of Melbourne.
Even though the Master in Finance course is a 2 year course, I will be studying only 1.5 years in Uni of Melb (since I will get 6 months credit from Monash).
So, will I be satisfying the 2 year rule now?
@Moi
Yes, you fulfill the two year rule by what you have explained.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaid,
I have another question. Will a Master in Finance or Master of Business (Banking and Finance) degree make me eligible to apply for PR after 2 years of study?
As far as I know, the closest related profession on the SOL is accountant.
Please note I also have a Bachelor of Commerce (Accounting and Finance) degree from Australia but I graduated more than 6 months ago.
@Moi
Whether you can nominate a particular profession on SOL after finishing your two yr study depends upon the following criteria
1. How closely related your 2 yr degree is to your nominated profession.
2. Whether the assessing body will give you a positive skills assessment in the nominated profession or not.
Please note that just by studying two yrs does not make you eligible for a positive skills assessment from any assessing body.
In your case, if you are nominating accountant profession, then, you must check what the requirements of your assessing body are and whether your degree will lead you to a positive skills assessment from that assessing body based on your two yrs study.
If not, then the DIAC will reject your application.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hello Junaid,
Sorry to bother you again and again, but now I am worried a finance degree will not count towards my PR application.
Since I have a Bachelor in Commerce (Accounting and Finance) degree from Australia completed more than 6 months ago, will the courses undertaken in my bachelors degree count towards my skill assessment at all? Or the assessing body will only look at my 2 year masters degree?
Thank you so much for replying.
Hello Junaid,
So I just checked the requirement to apply as an accountant (general) under the SOL, after completing 2 years of related study.
It seems that I will have to complete 9 out of 12 accounting areas, which will be assessed by the assessing bodies.
It seems I fulfill the 9 out of 12 rule just fine through my Australian bachelors degree, but unfortunately I graduated in January, 2010.
So, when assessed by, e.g. CPA, will they count my more than 6 months old bachelors degree's courses as well or will they only look into my recent Master degree's courses in order to assess my eligibility?
Thank you and regards,
Moi
Hello Junaid,
Sorry for bothering you again and again.
What I have understood so far is, if I select accountant (general) (ANZSCO Code: 221111) as my chosen profession from the SOL, I will have to assess my qualifications from CPA Australia/ IPA/ ICAA.
Now the question is, will the above mentioned assessing bodies assess my Australian Bachelor degree as well, that was completed in December, 2009? I fulfill the required areas of study with my Bachelor degree in order to apply as an accountant.
Or is it that the assessing bodies will only look into my 2-year Master degree, and not bother about my previous qualifications?
Thank in advance.
Hi Junaid. I have read this article and a few posts. That was pretty impressive. I have several questions for you.
I have studied three years in Swinburne University of Technology in Malaysia and one year in Swinburne University of Technology in Melbourne and recently graduated in Bachelor of Civil Engineering.
1. Am I eligible to get points for Australian Qualification?
2. As I have only studied one year in Australia, I am looking forward to study another year to meet the two years study requirements. As I have read that the two years of study needs to be related. Therefore, what courses are eligible for me to meet the two years study requirements?
3. Can a one year Graduate Diploma in Mining Engineering in UWA would meet the two years study requirement?
4. Can a one year Diploma in Surveying in Education and Training International (WA) would meet the two years study requirements?
@Moi
Hello Junaid,
Sorry for bothering you again and again.
What I have understood so far is, if I select accountant (general) (ANZSCO Code: 221111) as my chosen profession from the SOL, I will have to assess my qualifications from CPA Australia/ IPA/ ICAA.
Yes. That is correct. If you nominate Accounting as your profession then you will have to get your skills nominated from one of the assessing bodies you just mentioned. They are all different and will have different requirements. So choose the body which is the easiest to get through.
Now the question is, will the above mentioned assessing bodies assess my Australian Bachelor degree as well, that was completed in December, 2009?
You will have to check that with the assessing body. In my opinion they can assess your Bachelors degree which you completed in 2009.
I fulfill the required areas of study with my Bachelor degree in order to apply as an accountant.
Or is it that the assessing bodies will only look into my 2-year Master degree, and not bother about my previous qualifications?
The problem is not the assessing body.
The problem is that any degree completed 6 months before the lodgement of the application is not considered by DIAC.
So DIAC will only consider the two yr study period which you completed 6 months prior to the lodgement of application.
So here is the solution
1. Get yourself assessed based on your bachelors degree as an accountant.
2. Apply to DIAC based on your Masters degree.
The problem is that DIAC may raise an objection that your 2 yr degree is NOT CLOSELY related to your nominated profession
So you have to somehow get around this problem.
I would suggest discussing this with a good migration agent.
Kind Regards
Junaid
@Big Bang
Hi Junaid. I have read this article and a few posts. That was pretty impressive. I have several questions for you.
I have studied three years in Swinburne University of Technology in Malaysia and one year in Swinburne University of Technology in Melbourne and recently graduated in Bachelor of Civil Engineering.
1. Am I eligible to get points for Australian Qualification?
No. You are not. Read the following
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/885/points-aust-study.htm
2. As I have only studied one year in Australia, I am looking forward to study another year to meet the two years study requirements. As I have read that the two years of study needs to be related. Therefore, what courses are eligible for me to meet the two years study requirements?
That depends how the case officer interprets the law. This question can be very tricky to answer.
I would suggest discussing this with a very good migration agent as this is a very tricky question.
3. Can a one year Graduate Diploma in Mining Engineering in UWA would meet the two years study requirement?
4. Can a one year Diploma in Surveying in Education and Training International (WA) would meet the two years study requirements?
Please see my response above.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Dear Junaid,
I'm Kristine from Vietnam. In 2008,I finished a diploma of Commerce at SIBT-Sydney (8 units).
RMIT-Vietnam (a branch of RMIT-Melbourne) agreed to give exemptions for all 8 units above, so I only need to complete 2nd and 3rd year study at RMIT.
Now, I am studying 2nd year of Bachelor of Accountancy at RMIT-Vietnam.
What if I finish 2nd year (8 units) in Vietnam, and continue 3rd year (8 units) at RMIT-Melbourne, will I be eligible for 2 year-study in Aus requirement? even though there is long gap between 2008 and 2012.
And is my qualification rewared by RMIT then considered as an Australian degree?
I would really appreciate your help.
Kristine.
Dear Junaid,
I'm Kristine from Vietnam. In 2008, I got a Diploma of Commerce from SIBT-Sydney (8 units).
In 2012, RMIT-Vietnam (a branch of RMIT Melbourne) agreed to exempt all 8 units above, so I only need to complete 2nd and 3rd year study at RMIT-Vietnam.
Now I'm studying 2nd year of Bachelor of Accountancy at RMIT Vietnam.
What if I finish 2nd year in Vietnam, then continue 3rd year at RMIT-Melbourne, does that count to 2 year-study requirement in Australia? even though such a long gap between 2008 and now?
Is then my Bachelor qualification rewared by RMIT considered as Australian degree?
Thank you so much for your help.
Kristine Hoang.
HI
I am planning to do Masters(coursework) in logistics from curtin university..the duration of the course mentioned on the offer letter is 1.5 years....so i wanted to ask that can i do a 6 months course After this in order to cover up 2years of academic study.....as i want to get the 2years post study visa..
Thanks
@Kristine
You are studying a three yr degree and have studied two yrs in Vietnam and will study one in Australia.
So technically speaking, you would have only studied one yr worth of education in Australia.
The fact that you are studying in an Australian university which has a campus overseas does not add to your two yr study period.
The two yr study period must be inside Australia.
Kind Regards
@Kristine
Yes your degree is still considered an Australian degree, however, only the duration you study in Australia counts towards the two yr period.
Kind Regards
Junaid
I am planning to do Masters(coursework) in logistics from curtin university..the duration of the course mentioned on the offer letter is 1.5 years....so i wanted to ask that can i do a 6 months course After this in order to cover up 2years of academic study.....as i want to get the 2years post study visa..
Yes you can study another 6 months course but that course must be a postgraduate diploma or degree.
It cannot be a certificate.
hi bro ,
i want to apply for master in networking from Australian university,the course duration is 2 years, S069 CRICOS Code: 054543M,
but this course may be taken in accelerated format and completed in 1.5 years(mentioned on the university website)
my question is
will it be considered as a 2 year course or 1.5 years because it was completed in accelerated format
thanks in advance
@Farhan
As long as you do your two yr degree in 16 calendar months, you fulfil the two yr requirement.
Check the link below
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/885/eligibility-aust-study.htm
Kind Regards
Junaid
hi!
I want to enroll in a 1.5 years masters degree in Professional Accounting either in Macquarie University or Australian National University. After completing this if I do further studies of at least 6 months in the same field either in the same university or in a different one, will this fulfill the 2 years study requirement?
@^^
I want to enroll in a 1.5 years masters degree in Professional Accounting either in Macquarie University or Australian National University. After completing this if I do further studies of at least 6 months in the same field either in the same university or in a different one, will this fulfill the 2 years study requirement?
The 6 months study that you would need to do MUST be at least a DIPLOMA or a DEGREE and also CLOSELY related to the field of your previous study as well as the profession you nominate on the SOL.
If you fulfil the above mentioned requirements, then, yes you fulfil the 2 yr study requirement.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Dear Junaid,
I have been reading all the information you give, and I think you are doing a wonderful job.
I too need your help.
I completed my 10th with 75.7%
I completed my 12th commerce with 79.5%
I completed my graduation in Hotel management from the Institute of Hotel Management Mumbai(no.1 in India) in 2010 with 60%.
I have been working for my father's business (electrical engineering firm) since then in the marketing division.
I wish to apply for a 2 year MBA.
I want to work in Australia for a few years(8-10) after I finish my MBA and come back to India.
I would like to know the possibility f me getting into a G-8 university, and whether I stand a chance of getting sponsored by a company after my MBA, as MBAs are not listed in MODL/SOL/CSOL.
Do you think that I can get a job after my MBA from a good college/university?
I would also like to know about the current job market/situation in Australia as far as MBAs are concerened.
Dear Junaid,
I have been reading all the information you give, and I think you are doing a wonderful job.
I too need your help.
I completed my 10th with 75.7%
I completed my 12th commerce with 79.5%
I completed my graduation in Hotel management from the Institute of Hotel Management Mumbai(no.1 in India) in 2010 with 60%.
I have been working for my father's business (engineering firm) since then in the marketing division.
I wish to apply for a 2 year MBA.
I want to work in Australia for a few years(8-10) after I finish my MBA and come back to India.
I would like to know the possibility f me getting into a G-8 university, and whether I stand a chance of getting sponsored by a company after my MBA, as MBAs are not listed in MODL/SOL/CSOL.
Do you think that I can get a job after my MBA from a good college/university?
I would also like to know about the current job market/situation in Australia as far as MBAs are concerened.
@Gaurav
I would like to know the possibility f me getting into a G-8 university, and whether I stand a chance of getting sponsored by a company after my MBA, as MBAs are not listed in MODL/SOL/CSOL.
That is correct. Most professions listed on the SOL are NOT closely related to MBA.
I am not familiar with what the entry requirements are for G8 universities.
Getting sponsored by a company after MBA depends upon lots of things. Having an MBA does not guarantee that an employer will sponsor you.
Do you think that I can get a job after my MBA from a good college/university?
There is no YES or NO answer. It depends upon a lot of things like your skill set, your experience, whether you have work rights or not etc.
I would also like to know about the current job market/situation in Australia as far as MBAs are concerened.
You can get an idea of the current job market by searching www.seek.com.au
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hello Junaid,
I am looking forward to do a 2 year Advanced Diploma of Information Technology Business Analysis from Aces Centre. Course Sector: VET
CRICOS Course Code: 076042F
Duration (Weeks): 104.
I want to know after completing this course can I apply for 18 months temporary work permit visa?
@Mounsq
I want to know after completing this course can I apply for 18 months temporary work permit visa?
Mounsq, You should read the following link which described the requirements for a 18 month graduate skilled visa.
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/485/eligibility-applicant.htm
While you are fulfilling the two yr study requirement, you must also be able to nominate a profession on the SOL and have a positive skills assessment in the profession you have nominated.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi :)
I actually did only my final year of bachelor studies in Australia, that is 1 year because I did the first 2 years in my home country. And what I read from your posts is that, to be eligible for the 2-year criteria, I should apply for another course which is closely related to my previous studies. My question is am I allowed to have a gap between those two courses? Because I have not yet decided for the second course. Thanks
@Anonymous
Hi :)
I actually did only my final year of bachelor studies in Australia, that is 1 year because I did the first 2 years in my home country. And what I read from your posts is that, to be eligible for the 2-year criteria, I should apply for another course which is closely related to my previous studies.
Yes, to fulfill the two yr study requirement you have to study in another degree, which is of the same level as your first degree, for at least one year. But this will only fulfill the two yr study requirement. The rules have now changed and international students can no longer apply directly for PR after finishing their studies.
My question is am I allowed to have a gap between those two courses? Because I have not yet decided for the second course. Thanks
Yes you can, but as I explained earlier, unless you are covered by the transitional arrangements, you can no longer apply directly for PR.
The problem is that the pathway of getting PR by studying for two yrs is no longer available to international students. Only students who come under transitional arrangements are eligible to apply for PR based on two yr study requirement.
Once you finish your 2 yr study, all you get is a work visa after which if you cannot get PR, you have to return back to your country of origin.
In short, PR is no longer granted ONLY on the basis of study. You have to score points and fulfill some prerequisites to get PR.
Please read the following post to further develop an understanding of how to get PR.
http://study-n-australia.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/expression-of-interest-eoi.html
Hello :)
I am currently an undergraduate psychology student at University of Melbourne. I started my course in July 2011 and expect to complete it by June 2014.
I would like to know if I am eligible for the working visa after my studies which came in force as from November 2011. Will I be eligible to apply for TR or PR?
Thanks a lot for your time :)
Hello :)
I am currently an undergraduate psychology student at University of Melbourne. I started my course in July 2011 and expect to complete it by June 2014.
I would like to know if I am eligible for the working visa after my studies which came in force as from November 2011. Will I be eligible to apply for TR or PR?
Thanks a lot for your time :)
There is talk of giving temporary work visas to all international students who study for at least 2 yrs and finish their courses regardless of which course they are enrolled in.
You can read about the current 18 months TR by visiting the link below
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/485/
As you can see, at this point in time, only students who have studied in courses related to professions listed on SOL can apply for TR.
Please check the SOL and see whether the course you are studying is closely related a profession on SOL or not.
If there is no profession on SOL which closely matches your course, SOL then you cannot apply for TR then its hard to tell when exactly would the law change
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaid, I really appreciate you for having the patience and responding to the queries of many people here. Hope you can help me out too.
I completed my Masters in Australia in 2010. I have worked as a Business Analyst, outside Australia, for exactly 2 years now. The occupation is listed in SOL. I have at least a 7 in all bands of IELTS as of July 2010 (I believe the IELTS score is now valid for 3 years). Including my age and others, I have 55 points. Can I claim points for my Australian education also, if not would a regional sponsored PR be my only option. Please advise. I am worried that the visa rules might change if I wait for another year to complete 3 years of work experience.
@Vishal
Hi Junaid, I really appreciate you for having the patience and responding to the queries of many people here. Hope you can help me out too.
I completed my Masters in Australia in 2010. I have worked as a Business Analyst, outside Australia, for exactly 2 years now. The occupation is listed in SOL. I have at least a 7 in all bands of IELTS as of July 2010 (I believe the IELTS score is now valid for 3 years). Including my age and others, I have 55 points. Can I claim points for my Australian education also, if not would a regional sponsored PR be my only option. Please advise. I am worried that the visa rules might change if I wait for another year to complete 3 years of work experience.
According to the new rules, you first have to get a EOI from the department.
I have explained in detail what EOI is at this link
http://study-n-australia.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/expression-of-interest-eoi.html
Once you get an EOI then you can start thinking about points.
Yes, you can claim points for Australian education provided it fulfills a few criteria. The points for Australian study requirement are explained below.
http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/visas/subclass-189/#australian-study-requirements
So yes you can get points for Australian study.
All applications must be submitted for visas listed on this page.
http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/
Hops this helps.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaid,
Thanks for the response. Do you think it would be best to wait for another year (to acquire 3 years of work experience) or apply now. Would the rules change in a years time, that I may lose the current opportunity.
Hi Junaid,
Thanks for the response. Do you think it would be best to wait for another year (in order to acquire 3 years of work experience) or apply right away. I am worried that the rules may change in a year's time and may lose the current opportunity.
@Vishal Raghav,
If you think you fulfill the required points of a particular category at this point in time then certainly apply for it straight away.
Regarding your question about rules changing, there is no guarantee whether rules will stay the same or not.
Rules have changed for the past 10 yrs and will keep changing.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaid.
I would like to know if under skillselect, the processing time of EOI is different from applying inside and outside Australia.
Thank you for your time.
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Hi Junaid.
I would like to know if under skillselect, the processing time of EOI is different from applying inside and outside Australia.
Thank you for your time.
EOI processing is a computerized process.
There is no human intervention.
So I would not be able to say whether timelines are more for an external EOI to that of an internal one.
Hi juned
I am planning to do master of accounting/master of business administration from vuctoria university (sydney).
I just wanted to know whether i will be able to apply for PR or not.. If yes, then what are the chances of getting a PR in australia.. If no, then what course should i opt to be eligible for P
Hi juned
I am planning to do master of accounting/master of business administration from vuctoria university (sydney).
I just wanted to know whether i will be able to apply for PR or not
You can no longer apply for PR directly as was the case before 2011.
You will have to go through the same process just as any one else applying for PR from overseas.
Please read the following link which will give you an idea of how to apply for PR under the current rules.
http://study-n-australia.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/expression-of-interest-eoi.html
You can though apply for a 4 yr work visa which you can get if you study for a specific amount of time.
You can read about it here.
http://study-n-australia.blogspot.com.au/2013/06/four-year-temporary-graduate-skilled.html
.. If yes, then what are the chances of getting a PR in australia.. If no, then what course should i opt to be eligible for P
You should try to get yourself ready by getting the requisites for an offshore visa ready.
The first link I provided explains it all.
Hope this helps.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaid,
Your blog has been really helpful. Thanks a lot.Although I just need a small clarification.
I am planning to do Master of Information Technology from CSU having 12 subjects. The duration mentioned on CRICOS site is 104 weeks.
please check the following link:
http://cricos.deewr.gov.au/Course/CourseDetails.aspx?CourseID=75298
On CSU website, course duration is mentioned as follows "The Master of Information Technology (12 subjects) has a minimum full-time duration of three sessions; however, actual duration is dependent on subject availability and the session of commencement."
So my question is if I complete the course in 1.5 years(3 sessions, 4 subjects per session), will I be eligible for PR?
Also,if I complete the course in 2 years(4 sessions, 3 subjects per session), will I be eligible for PR?
Thanks in Advance. :)
@Amruta
Hi Junaid,
Your blog has been really helpful. Thanks a lot.Although I just need a small clarification.
I am planning to do Master of Information Technology from CSU having 12 subjects. The duration mentioned on CRICOS site is 104 weeks.
please check the following link:
http://cricos.deewr.gov.au/Course/CourseDetails.aspx?CourseID=75298
On CSU website, course duration is mentioned as follows "The Master of Information Technology (12 subjects) has a minimum full-time duration of three sessions; however, actual duration is dependent on subject availability and the session of commencement."
So my question is if I complete the course in 1.5 years(3 sessions, 4 subjects per session), will I be eligible for PR?
If you complete the course which has a duration of 2 academic years in at least 16 calendar months then you would have fulfilled the two yr study requirement.
Read the following link
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/175/eligibility-aust-study.htm
Also,if I complete the course in 2 years(4 sessions, 3 subjects per session), will I be eligible for PR?
Thanks in Advance. :)
You will have fulfilled the two yr study requirement.
International students can no longer apply directly for PR.
You can though apply for a work visa which can be of 4 yrs depending upon your situation.
In those 4 yrs you have to gain work experience and then apply for PR.
Just repeating, you can no longer apply for PR directly after studying in Australia for 2 yrs.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Dear Mr.Junaid,
I did MBA from university of south australia in year 2009. When i was offered this program the course was registered for 104 weeks under a different cricos code. Now this course is registered under a different cricos code and for 78 weeks. my question is do i satisfy the 2 year study rule as i finished the course which was earlier registered for 104 weeks. my completion letter also says that i have completed a 2 year study
@Shafu
Dear Mr.Junaid,
I did MBA from university of south australia in year 2009. When i was offered this program the course was registered for 104 weeks under a different cricos code. Now this course is registered under a different cricos code and for 78 weeks. my question is do i satisfy the 2 year study rule as i finished the course which was earlier registered for 104 weeks. my completion letter also says that i have completed a 2 year study
If the CRICOS code that you studied under was 104 weeks then you have fulfilled the 2 yr study requirement.
You might run into trouble if your case officer cannot find the CRICOS code that you studied under.
So in that case, you will have to get extra information from uni to pass on to your case officer.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi,
I got an offer in Masters in Finance which is 1.5 years /78 weeks course. so after my graduation can I apply for Temporary Residency?
If no, then can I get an extention on my Student visa if I like to take a Graduate Certificate course(6 months)?
Can I change my university for the new degree/course?
I got an offer in Masters of Finance. Duration- 1.5 years/78 weeks. Would I be able to apply for Temporary residency after graduation?
If no then what are the best options?
Will I get an extention of visa if I like to take a Graduate Certificate course (6 months)?
Will I be able to change my university for the same purpose?
Can I go through all these procedures living in Australia?
@Jay
You can find details of the visa by visiting the following link
http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/485.aspx
Hi,
I got an offer in Masters in Finance which is 1.5 years /78 weeks course. so after my graduation can I apply for Temporary Residency?
No. The requirement for temporary work visa is TWO yr study. You can read about two yr study by reading the link below
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/2-year-study.htm
If no, then can I get an extention on my Student visa if I like to take a Graduate Certificate course(6 months)?
Yes you can enroll in another program and study for 6 more months. But this program must be a degree or a diploma. It cannot be a certificate.
Can I change my university for the new degree/course?
Yes you can.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaid,
My course is registered as 104 weeks in CRICOS website.
The course comprises 16 subjects (equal weights), and I have received 1 subject exemption. It means that I will only take 15 subjects.
Does it meet the requirement of 2 years full time study (92 weeks)?
Someone told me that:
-If it has 16 subjects, each subject = 104/16 = 6.5 weeks
-15 subjects = 15 x 6.5 = 97.5 weeks – OK [more than 92]
-14 subjects = 15 x 6.5 = 91 weeks – NOT OK [less than 92 weeks]
Is he right?
Many thanks,
Edison.
@Wang
Hi Junaid,
My course is registered as 104 weeks in CRICOS website.
The course comprises 16 subjects (equal weights), and I have received 1 subject exemption. It means that I will only take 15 subjects.
Does it meet the requirement of 2 years full time study (92 weeks)?
Someone told me that:
-If it has 16 subjects, each subject = 104/16 = 6.5 weeks
-15 subjects = 15 x 6.5 = 97.5 weeks – OK [more than 92]
-14 subjects = 15 x 6.5 = 91 weeks – NOT OK [less than 92 weeks]
Is he right?
Many thanks,
The formula for two yr study is listed here
http://study-n-australia.blogspot.com.au/2008/10/formula-for-calculating-two-year-study.html
Please note that two yr study now only helps in getting a graduate skilled visa subclass 485
http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/485.aspx
And it will help you to get points when you apply for permanent residency after lodging your EOI.
You can no longer apply directly for PR based on two yr study ONLY.
Please read my post here
http://study-n-australia.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/expression-of-interest-eoi.html
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hello Junaid..
Can you help me out..
my self kunwar from india, after doing my B.D.S. fron india i want to move australia on study base and my brother is also sponsor me to come there & he have citizenship of australia.
i have selected course MASTERS IN HEALTH SCIENCE (AGED SERVICES) from victoria university which is 1.5 year full time course & contain 144 credit points (link- http://www.vu.edu.au/courses/international/HMSA ) , so it is clear that i will not apply for PR coz it is not 2year course, so can i do addition certificate course of 6 month to complete my 2 year study in australia or 1 year diploma course or i will choose 2 year full time course to get easy. please reply me back. thanks & regard
@Meena
Hello Junaid..
Can you help me out..
my self kunwar from india, after doing my B.D.S. fron india i want to move australia on study base and my brother is also sponsor me to come there & he have citizenship of australia.
i have selected course MASTERS IN HEALTH SCIENCE (AGED SERVICES) from victoria university which is 1.5 year full time course & contain 144 credit points (link- http://www.vu.edu.au/courses/international/HMSA ) , so it is clear that i will not apply for PR coz it is not 2year course,
Let me clarify two things. Studying for two yrs and applying for PR are two different things.
Studying for 2 yrs in a degree or diploma closely related to a profession on the SOL only entitles you to two things
1) Apply for a graduate skilled visa subclass 485.
http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/485.aspx
2) Claim the points for Australian study while lodging an application for a PR visa.
Studying for two yrs doesnt not mean you can apply for PR. You can still apply for PR even if you have not studied for two yr (e.g. applying for overseas skilled migration)
so can i do addition certificate course of 6 month to complete my 2 year study in australia or 1 year diploma course or i will choose 2 year full time course to get easy. please reply me back. thanks & regard
If your degree is of 1.5 yrs then you can enroll in a diploma of one yr after your finish your 1.5 yrs degree and then claim exemption based on your 1.5 yrs degree and this way complete the 1 yr diploma in 6 months.
This way you get to study for 2 yrs.
Please make sure you understand the process for applying for PR before coming to Australia to study for 2 yrs.
I am repeating that you cannot simply apply for PR just because you have studied for 2 yrs. You need to fulfill other requirements such as applying for EOI and getting an invitation and then if you score the pass marks you apply for PR.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hii Junaid
I am ARV. I am in a total confusion now. I am registered in a 2 years course with 104 weeks as in CRICOS. I have started course in March 10 2014 according to my COE. I am thinking of Fast Forwarding the course by taking classes in the summer holiday. I will complete the course by july 11 2015 with official result decleration. Will I be eligible for the 2 year study rule ?? I am totally confused at this stage on what to do on this regards. pls help me out. Thanks in advance.
Hii Junaid
I am ARV. I am in a total confusion now. I am registered in a 2 years course with 104 weeks as in CRICOS. I have started course in March 10 2014 according to my COE. I am thinking of Fast Forwarding the course by taking classes in the summer holiday. I will complete the course by july 11 2015 with official result decleration. Will I be eligible for the 2 year study rule ?? I am totally confused at this stage on what to do on this regards. pls help me out. Thanks in advance.
@ARV
Read the following
https://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general-skilled-migration/2-year-study.htm#study
To meet this requirement, you must have completed in no less than 16 calendar months either:
a single qualification requiring at least two academic years study
more than one qualification resulting in a total period of at least two academic years study.
So basically you can do your 102 weeks course which is 2 yrs of 24months in minimum 16 calendar months and you will still be able to fulfill the 2 yr requirement.
Hope this helps.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaid.. I'm studying a Master program for 1.5years. And hoping to do a VET Diploma for 6months after study. Can I join the two after completion to apply for temporary graduate visa 485?
Hi Junaid.. I'm studying a Master program for 1.5years. And hoping to do a VET Diploma for 6months after study. Can I join the two after completion to apply for temporary graduate visa 485?
That depends upon what your VET diploma is.
English language proficiency courses or enabling programs cannot be used to meet the Australian study requirement.
So is your second course an enabling program? If yes then No you cannot join the two.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaud
I was wondering whether I meet the two Years full-time study requirement.
I have got 11 units exempted as I have actually completed these units in Malaysia.
And then I did 13 units in Australia in 4 semesters
(Semester one:4 units Semester two:4 units Semester three:4 units Semester four: 1 unit)
This course is registered with CRICOS and it is a 3 year bachelor course.
Hi Junaud
I was wondering whether I meet the two Years full-time study requirement.
I have got 11 units exempted as I have actually completed these units in Malaysia.
And then I did 13 units in Australia in 4 semesters
(Semester one:4 units Semester two:4 units Semester three:4 units Semester four: 1 unit)
This course is registered with CRICOS and it is a 3 year bachelor course.
Here is the formula.
T=L X C/U , where:
T= Duration for which the student studied the course
L= length of course on CRICOS
C = number of units completed by student, excluding exemptions
U = number of units which would be necessary to complete the studies
From the looks of it you have studied for 1.7 yrs OR 88.4 weeks which is less than 92 weeks.
You can also read some examples by checking this PDF
http://www.australiavisa.com/english/pdfs/news_letter_pdf/49%20How%20to%20Calculate%20your%2092%20weeks.pdf
Hope this helps
Kind Regards
In my case, I had done one year of undergraduate in Brisbane(equivalent to 8 units)and was awarded an accounting degree from The University of Queensland in December 2011. I came back to Malaysia for about 16 months. Then in July 2013, I went back to Australia to do an one-year master degree(8 units).
My question is with my current situation, can it be considered as two academic years of study?
In which I believe both of my degree and master (accounting based)are closely related.
@Anonymous
In my case, I had done one year of undergraduate in Brisbane(equivalent to 8 units)and was awarded an accounting degree from The University of Queensland in December 2011. I came back to Malaysia for about 16 months. Then in July 2013, I went back to Australia to do an one-year master degree(8 units).
My question is with my current situation, can it be considered as two academic years of study?
In which I believe both of my degree and master (accounting based)are closely related.,
Use the formula below to calculate the time you spent studying in Australia towards the award of a degree.
http://study-n-australia.blogspot.com.au/2008/10/formula-for-calculating-two-year-study.html
Or you can read the following for more explanation.
http://www.australiavisa.com/english/pdfs/news_letter_pdf/49%20How%20to%20Calculate%20your%2092%20weeks.pdf
Kind Regards
Junaid
i am doing master of management (engineering) at cqu brisbane.
my cricos : 072160K. its 2 year full course.
this thing available in SOL list "Engineering Manager 133211 Engineers Australia/AIM "
how can i understand? my course is relevant with this SOL list requirment....
@Replace Dholu
am doing master of management (engineering) at cqu brisbane.
my cricos : 072160K. its 2 year full course.
this thing available in SOL list "Engineering Manager 133211 Engineers Australia/AIM "
how can i understand? my course is relevant with this SOL list requirment....
You need to contact AIM and confirm with them what are the per-requisites for gaining a positive skills recognition for the profession of Engineering Manager 133211.
I dont think AIM gives a positive skills assessment just based on a degree.
Please check with AIM.
Kind Regards
Junaid
UNSW is offering Electrical engineering master course 8621 in summer terms along with sem 1 and sem 2. If i complete degree in 16 months although it is full 2 years degree with (96 credits) then will it cause any problem in PR ?? I will be completing 96 credit but not full 2 years requirement ?
@Alpha
UNSW is offering Electrical engineering master course 8621 in summer terms along with sem 1 and sem 2. If i complete degree in 16 months although it is full 2 years degree with (96 credits) then will it cause any problem in PR ?? I will be completing 96 credit but not full 2 years requirement ?
If you complete this degree in 16 months then you will only have met the 2 yr study criteria.
Not sure why you are asking about PR as this will only get you 5 points for Australian study requirement while applying for a permanent resident visa. It does not help in any other way.
And depending upon your assessing body you might get points for qualification as well. But you need to confirm this with someone.
http://www.immi.gov.au/Visas/Pages/189.aspx
You cannot apply for PR straight after studying this degree. Make sure you know what the process is.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi
My course was a dipolma and i completed it which is 52 weeks and i transferred to the masters of that same course but i got exceptions of 4 subjects, which for a full masters the totally weeks is 78, i got the dipolma and masters combined in 18 months which is 3 semesters, with the combination of both degrees can that count towards two years?
Hi
My course was a dipolma and i completed it which is 52 weeks and i transferred to the masters of that same course but i got exceptions of 4 subjects, which for a full masters the totally weeks is 78, i got the dipolma and masters combined in 18 months which is 3 semesters, with the combination of both degrees can that count towards two years?
You can calculate the total duration of your combined study by using this formula. If the total duration is at least 92 weeks then yes you fulfill the 2 yr study requirement.
http://study-n-australia.blogspot.com.au/2008/10/formula-for-calculating-two-year-study.html
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaid
I have recently graduated from uni with an accounting degree. I found that I just spent 1.5 yrs to complete the course as I had some units exempted. And recently I started a 6 months diploma course which is a management course. I wonder if this combination can fulfill the 2 yrs study requirement.
Cheers.
Hi there,i am bikash and i am from Nepal. I have completed my Bsc, (Hons) from london Metropolitan uni. , Uk and currently living in nepal. Now i want to apply for 2 yr MBA in australian uni with my wife as a dependent. what i am worried about is what will happen after i complete my MBA? Do i have to return back home or i can do PSW and apply for PR after that?? My friends who are doing Masters of information technology says they can do 1 yr of professional studies and they can apply for PR after they complete 2 ye of studies at uni. Is it same for MBA graduates too or there is some difference... please mail me in this id beecas.bb@gmail.com
many thanks...!!
@Raymond
I have recently graduated from uni with an accounting degree. I found that I just spent 1.5 yrs to complete the course as I had some units exempted. And recently I started a 6 months diploma course which is a management course. I wonder if this combination can fulfill the 2 yrs study requirement.
Please see explanation below.
Two academic years study is defined as 92 weeks of registered study.
It is a measure of the amount of study you have completed rather than how long it took you to complete the study. The requirement that you complete two academic years study does not mean that you need to study full-time to meet the Australian study requirement.
You can take longer to complete those requirements if you so choose. That is, if you take 92 weeks to complete a course registered with CRICOS for only 78 weeks, that course will still only count for 78 weeks towards meeting the Australian study requirement.
If you fall short of the 92 weeks of study due to exemptions you have received, you have several options to meet the Australian study requirement. Options could include:
Have the university rescind the exemptions so you must now successfully complete these subjects to be awarded your qualification
Complete additional units that are at the same level as the exempted units (or higher) and which are accepted by the university as award units for the qualification, such as an elective unit.
Note: If the education provider specifies the units as 'Non-Award' units, then these units will not be able to count towards meeting the Australian study requirement. Also the additional units would need to be of sufficient registered CRICOS duration to take you to a total of 92 weeks of registered study.
Also note: The academic transcript should indicate that the elective is contributing towards the award of the degree for this unit to be counted towards meeting the Australian study requirement to ensure that there is no doubt about the electives being part of the award of the qualification
Complete an additional qualification that is closely related to the occupation you nominate on your General Skilled Migration application.
This additional qualification must be of sufficient CRICOS registered duration to make up for the exempted units from the students course(s).
Hi Junaid,
Really Appreciate , the manner in which you have written the blog.
I have a very specific question, in regards to 2 years study requirement.
I did my Masters of Science (Computers and Information Science) in year 2005-2006
The Letter i Have Got from University says
"Rahul has been enrolled in their Program from 11/03/2005 and studied for 2 years."
"All Academic Requirements were Completed on 11/12/2006"
"The Award was conferred on 20/12/2006"
By this Language , do i complete 2 years ?.
Thanks for your inputs in adanace.
Regards
Rahul Saluja
@Rahul,
All depends on two things
1) What was the official duration of the course you enrolled in as listed on CRICOS website.
2) How much time did you take to complete the course.
The duration listed on the university degree/letter does not have much legal value.
So check what is the duration of the degree as listed on CRICOS.
And how much time did you take to complete ( which I guess is 2 yrs as listed on the letter).
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi junaid,
First of all bravo for all this great information.
I am currently enrolled in a MBA program at Murdoch university in Perth which is CROCOS registered for 104 weeks.
The confusion i have is that i am a transferring student from the same university in Dubai, as in i have completed 40% of my course in Dubai and I am due to Finnish the rest 60% from the Perth campus. Basically i will be completing 3 semesters (18 months including the summer and winter breaks) in Perth but i am enrolled in this course from 2012 onwards at Dubai campus. So i have taken less course every semester because on my COE they gave me 1 year extra visa, so thought of splitting the load. In short, I have done only 1 semester with full load, and that was only here in Perth.
My question is, will I be eligible for a Temporary Graduate visa (subclass 485) if I end up taking another semester (3+1) which will then make my study here in Australia for 2 years, in addition to 1.5 years I have completed in Dubai, and as for the CROCOS of my course is already 104 weeks.
Mainly, Do I have to stay in Australia for total of 2 years, even if I was not taking the full time study load and can i still apply for the graduate visa, if I plan to take another 2 electives from the same course, to extend my degree for another semester?
Finally, as per CROCOS I have fulfilled the 92 weeks for the course, now do I have to somehow extend my stay in Australia to complete the 2 years?
I am sorry this is so confusing for me, I hope you understand my question.
Cheers
@Shahbaz Hamid
If you have undertaken study while not physically present in Australia, this study cannot be used to satisfy the Australian study requirement.
However, if you undertook some study overseas but nevertheless completed at least two academic years of study in no less than 16 calendar months while in Australia you can still meet the Australian study requirement.
Example 1: You would have completed two academic years study in Australia if you undertook a three year, six semester Bachelor degree in the following pattern:
semester 1 - outside Australia
semester 2 - in Australia
semester 3 - in Australia
semester 4 - in Australia
semester 5 - outside Australia
semester 6 - in Australia
The pattern of study does not matter as long as the Australian study requirement is met. In the example above, you could have commenced studies in Australia and completed the studies outside Australia and still met the Australian study requirements.
Example 2: If you have studied at an overseas campus of an Australian educational institution, or undertaken study online or by correspondence with an Australian educational institution while outside Australia, this study will not be accepted. This is because all study must be undertaken while you are physically present in Australia.
What ever you studied in Dubai IS NOT counted towards the two year study load.
To calculate how much you have studied in Australia just plug in the Australian credits studied into this formula and calculate your Australian study period.
T=L X C/U , where:
T= Duration for which the student studied the course.
L= length of course on CRICOS
C = number of units completed by student, excluding exemptions and units studied overseas
U = number of units which would be necessary to complete the studies
@Shahbaz Hamid
If you have undertaken study while not physically present in Australia, this study cannot be used to satisfy the Australian study requirement.
However, if you undertook some study overseas but nevertheless completed at least two academic years of study in no less than 16 calendar months while in Australia you can still meet the Australian study requirement.
Example 1: You would have completed two academic years study in Australia if you undertook a three year, six semester Bachelor degree in the following pattern:
semester 1 - outside Australia
semester 2 - in Australia
semester 3 - in Australia
semester 4 - in Australia
semester 5 - outside Australia
semester 6 - in Australia
The pattern of study does not matter as long as the Australian study requirement is met. In the example above, you could have commenced studies in Australia and completed the studies outside Australia and still met the Australian study requirements.
Example 2: If you have studied at an overseas campus of an Australian educational institution, or undertaken study online or by correspondence with an Australian educational institution while outside Australia, this study will not be accepted. This is because all study must be undertaken while you are physically present in Australia.
What ever you studied in Dubai IS NOT counted towards the two year study load.
To calculate how much you have studied in Australia just plug in the Australian credits studied into this formula and calculate your Australian study period.
T=L X C/U , where:
T= Duration for which the student studied the course.
L= length of course on CRICOS
C = number of units completed by student, excluding exemptions and units studied overseas
U = number of units which would be necessary to complete the studies
sir
i am btech civil from india.i wish to do 2 year of construction management(Professional)(104 weeks) cricos from deakin uni.The course is professionally accredited by the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) and the Australian Institute of Quantity Surveyors (AIQS).i want to confirm that the course is related and will i get positive reply when applying for assesment from engineers australia.for applying sol civil engineers. or should i apply for sol quantity surveyor as my course is accredited by Australian Institute of Quantity Surveyors (AIQS). thanks in advance
sir
i am btech civil from india.i wish to do 2 year of construction management(Professional)(104 weeks) cricos from deakin uni.The course is professionally accredited by the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors (RICS) and the Australian Institute of Quantity Surveyors (AIQS).i want to confirm that the course is related and will i get positive reply when applying for assesment from engineers australia.for applying sol civil engineers
1) Engineers Australia do not issue assessments based on post graduate Masters level degrees.
2) Engineers Australia only assess based on undergraduate degrees.
What was your undergraduate degree in? Civil Engineering or something else?
If your undergraduate degree WAS NOT in Civil Engineering then Engineers Australia WILL NOT issues positive skills assessment.
You may wish to verify this info with Engineers Australia.
. or should i apply for sol quantity surveyor as my course is accredited by Australian Institute of Quantity Surveyors (AIQS). thanks in advance
If your course is accredited by AIQS then it is better to gain positive skills assessment in a profession that is assessed by AIQS instead of Engineers Australia.
Kind Regards
Junaid
Hi Junaid,
I am a bit confused. I am enrolled in a masters of public health at deakin uni. When I had initially enrolled in the course (march 2014) the website said its a 1.5 year course but did not mention about the number of weeks it consisted of. we were given an option to club it with a management degree and make it 2 year course. The cricos code of masters of public health in 2014 was 020018B. This year onwards the course is changed to a 2 year program. however the cricos code is still the same that is 020018B. when I check my degrees cricos code (which I have been enrolled in since last year) now on the official website it says 104 weeks.
First and second trimester (2014) I was enrolled full time (4 units each trimester). this year due to certain issues I had to enroll in 3 units in first trimest and 1 unit in second trimester. So basically I WILL complete my course ths year october. Thus period of stay had to be increased to 2 years. I want to know can I apply for my post study work visa in october after my completion or should I do another additional degree to be eligible for it. Hope I have not confused you. Looking forward to your reply. Thanks in advance.
@Anonymous
Hi Junaid,
I am a bit confused. I am enrolled in a masters of public health at deakin uni. When I had initially enrolled in the course (march 2014) the website said its a 1.5 year course but did not mention about the number of weeks it consisted of. we were given an option to club it with a management degree and make it 2 year course. The cricos code of masters of public health in 2014 was 020018B. This year onwards the course is changed to a 2 year program. however the cricos code is still the same that is 020018B. when I check my degrees cricos code (which I have been enrolled in since last year) now on the official website it says 104 weeks.
First and second trimester (2014) I was enrolled full time (4 units each trimester). this year due to certain issues I had to enroll in 3 units in first trimest and 1 unit in second trimester. So basically I WILL complete my course ths year october. Thus period of stay had to be increased to 2 years. I want to know can I apply for my post study work visa in october after my completion or should I do another additional degree to be eligible for it. Hope I have not confused you. Looking forward to your reply. Thanks in advance.
The formula for calculating your time period is as follows
T=L X C/U , where:
T= Duration for which the student studied the course
L= length of course on CRICOS
C = number of units completed by student, excluding exemptions
U = number of units which would be necessary to complete the studies
As your course is now for 104 weeks then please type in 104 in the formula above and also enter the number of weeks you actually studied the course for.
The end result must be greater than 92 weeks ( not 104 weeks).
Hope this helps
Kind Regards
Junaid
hello mate,
got admission in Charles sturt university sydney study center .
course- master of professional accounting 12 units program
cricos duration - 104 weeks
can i get 485(post study work stremm) visa with 12 unit program and can i eligible to apply PERMANENT RESIDENCY visa with 12 unit program or do i need to take 16 unit program to get any visa
Thank u....
hello mate ,
got admission in charles sturt university sydney study center
program name- master of professional accounting 12 unit program(96 credit points)
cricos duration-104 weeks
can i get 485 visa( post study work visa streem) with 12 unit program and can i eligible to apply permanent residency with 12 unit program .
Thank u.....
@Teja
Yes you will get a 485 graduate skilled visa after you complete your two yr study.
You can read up about it here
https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/485-
Yes you can be eligible to apply for PR provided you get invitation to apply for PR and you pass the points test.
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